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But isn't the sab supposed to do more stuff once They get the ideas from the viewers? I think/hope that will pick up after tonight and we find out who it is.
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I think once we find out who it is, it may be less boring. Please be less boring.
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I don't know that I'd believe anything the Sab says. Its motivation is to sabotage their game, so how do the HGs know if it's lying or telling the truth. Based on what's being said on the live feed boards, the HGs aren't all that concerned with what it's telling them.

I can see Brendon coming off as an arrogant ass. I thought him going to Hayden and trying to threaten Hayden into working with him was a misstep, at best. His approach came off as cocky. Considering most of the house seems to want Brendon out, I don't know that it matters much whether he's arrogant or agreeable.

Is it just me, or has this felt like the longest week ever? I can't wait to get a new HOH. Hopefully, it will be someone who will stir the pot, though that rarely happens this early in the game.
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Here is the HOH blog...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_brother/community/hoh_blog/

The Head of Household Blog

HoH Blog Post #1: Hayden
July 14, 2010

What's up America,

Life in the Big Brother house is CRAZY!! We have been here less than two weeks and the twists and turns just keep coming. By now, you all know of the Saboteur, and the life long friends who Im sure are trying to turn the house upside down. As far as the Saboteur goes, in the beginning the entire house was convinced it was Andrew. Now, opinions are starting to change. A few of us, including myself are thinking that Andrew is way too obvious of a choice. At this point we all know to expect the unexpected, and because all signs point to Andrew that might be an indication that he is not the Saboteur. My instincts have told me it might be Annie, and thats part of the reason why she is on the block, but its impossible to be certain. Hopefully in the coming week we'll get some concrete evidence and be able to pin down the Saboteur.

The life long friend situation has created an uneasy feeling in the house!!! Just as I started to feel comfortable around the Brigade (my alliance) this twist was thrown at us. I feel like a life long friendship is bond that not even Big Brother can break. In this house trusting somebody could be the key to $500,000, and the life long friends have a huge advantage. I cant trust anybody. I feel like its me against the house, and i don't think Im the only one who feels this way.

I will say, we have some real characters in the house. Each house guest has something unique about them, and thats why we are all here. Enzo might be the funniest dude on the planet, and its impossible to understand what is going on inside his head! Even though he is part of the Brigade, that alone makes him dangerous.

Of all the people in the house i get the worst vibes from Brittany. When she looks at me with her big cold eyes, I feel like the wheels in her head are spinning, and she will do ANYTHING for the money. We haven't reached the first eviction ceremony so I am still trying the best i can to get to know some of the other houseguest.

Kristin and I have formed a sub alliance, and Im starting to trust her. She seems like an unbelievable girl, but she is so mysterious. Trusting her could be a bad thing, but maybe its the smartest thing I've done in the house so far. Overall this experience has been incredible, and I feel blessed just to be a part of BB!!! I want to say hi to all my family back home, i miss you, and i love you. Thanks Mom for sending some goodies. Until next time.

Hayden
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you know that's another thing about the sabby. He/she's lying to us too lol at least until tonight. and it HAS been the longest frickin week with this show.

though we are starting to see some people building teams...but they lie so much you just don't know if they really mean it or are just saying what the other person wants to hear.

right now from what I've seen and heard during their talks we have

brandon/rachel

we have Brandon/rachel/ and Andrew----> they think he's with them and that brandon controls him but i've seen him tell hayden that brandon's gotta go

hayden/andrew --->

hayden/kristen

the brigade hayden/lane/enzo/matt----> these guys are tight but hayden and lane have already started talking about getting rid of enzo cuz they don't trust him

britney/monet/kathy--->they are trying to keep their little alliance a secret and so far so good because the brigade think they control all of these women

ragan is the only one I haven't seen say he's "in" with anyone other than the house.

on BBAD i saw brandon talking with hayden about next week. brandon mentioned putting up britney and monet with britney being the one to go home...he also threw in kathy's name but said he'd rather keep her there cuz she is like the house mother.

hayden was didn't really agree or disagree but then i noticed later when he was talking to lane he said the same thing to lane lmao

did i mention earlier that some are saying that brandon and rach had sex? but on bbdish they say they didn't have "real sex" but that his prostrate is very happy....wth? does that mean? did she give him a bj?

just turned the feeds on while i take a gardening break and it looks like they are all on lock down in the hoh room

forgot to mention...a lot of them think that rachel and brendon are the life long friends...they keep talking about how no one has actually seen them kiss.....sadly...i can't say the same lol
Edited by lexilani, Jul 15 2010, 01:49 PM.
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I think it's been long because of the day change. Having Wed and Thurs night shows make the rest of the week linger. I don't really care for it.
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Jul 15 2010, 02:41 PM
I think it's been long because of the day change. Having Wed and Thurs night shows make the rest of the week linger. I don't really care for it.
I agree, jcluckey. The Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday schedule kept the week moving along.

Thanks for posting Hayden's blog entry, BL. His mention of Britney's big, cold eyes made me laugh. I still like her.

Interesting that Hayden and Lane are already talking about not trutsing Enzo. I wonder if anything will actually come of it.


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did i mention earlier that some are saying that brandon and rach had sex? but on bbdish they say they didn't have "real sex" but that his prostrate is very happy....wth? does that mean? did she give him a bj?

LOL, lexil! Handjob or blowjob. One way or another, Brendon released some of his little swimmers. I think I read something about Brendon saying he liked to keep his prostate healthy by masturbating several times a day.
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I have to say...still really B.o.r.i.n.g.

Hope tonight kicks things up. I agree the W-Th-Sun schedule sucks.
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So this is the lamest BB twist EVER......the sabo gets booted first LMAO.
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LOL this is ridic! :)
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lol ain't that the truth jbrr! i take back what i said about rachel being ugly...she cleans up very nice. some of those farewells to annie were a little harsh.
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Seems the booted hgs will be sequestered so we may not have seen the last of Annie. Usually they only sequester if they are bringing someone back in a few weeks.

Loved Annie trashing Rachel after her farewell speech. Not that I dislike rachel but that was funny!
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I am not sure if I am the only one....but I cannot stand "The Brigade". I am not sure who I wanted to leave tonight. I do however like Brendan and Rachel only because they remind me of Jeff and Jordan. I thought Britney (the younger blonde....is that her name) was very mean to Annie in her godbye speach.
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Yeah I really dislike Britney. She seems like a *mean girl* from jr. high.

jbrr, there was a rumor that since the 14 HG quit at the last minte, they may recycle one of them so the early sequestering makes sense.
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Oh, I hadn't seen the news/rumor that a 14th HG quit at the last minute.

I have a friend that was a finalist and spent a week in sequester in the hotel, was seriously crushed about not getting in... a huge BB/Survivor fan-geek, would have ticked off a couple of the minority boxes, has a big fun and dynamic personality... would have been a very exciting hamster to have in the house. Definitely would have invested ME in the show a lot more... shame. 'Try again', they said, encouraging a return and offering the reminder that Evil Dick auditioned three or four times before getting on...

Oh, that's terrible, re: BB11's Michelle. I had such the crush on her... not at all surprised that she ditched the husband, but... no, no improvements there... the purple streaks are okay, and the Wondercon photos (on facebook) of her with Fairplay where she's dressed as Psylocke from the X-Men - those are kinda good, but... nope, she was much, MUCH better-looking last year. Shit.

The show so far... eh. The challenges have been fun to watch. I love how pissed BB must be about their saboteur getting unanimously backdoored in the first week, let's give them an ol' Nelson Muntz 'ha-HA!' for that...

I don't really like anybody. I don't really hate anybody. Nobody's really popping yet. Rachel would annoy me if I were in the house...

I think Kristen's hot (not getting much screentime, though).

I didn't really make any guesses as to who the saboteur was, but I wasn't surprised that it was Annie, either... I guess she was one of my stronger 'I think it might be' people, but I can't say I saw any clues or particularly suspicious behavior, it was just a feeling...

It'll get better, but I'm not real into it now... to make it just a wee bit more interesting (and I've been pretty busy), I'm staying out of the thread mid-week, so I'll be unspoiled by noms and veto wins and not-on-tv stuff.

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Too funny that they booted the Sab without even trying. I enjoyed Annie's exit interview with Julie. It made me wish Annie had been that bubbly while in the house. I won't be surprised if we see her again, though.

I was a little surprised the viewers voted that they thought Kathy was the Sab. With the way she sucked at the comps I had my suspicions. But I wasn't convinced she was smart enough to pull it off.

How lucky was Rachel's HOH win! That will keep Brendon safe for another week.

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I am not sure if I am the only one....but I cannot stand "The Brigade".

I'm not a fan of them. And I'm already tired of hearing them refer to themselves as "The Brigade." But I do like Matt and Lane as individuals, at this point.

I agree with all the Britney haters--she's a petty, little brat. But she makes me laugh. Probably because I think she's all bark no bite.


KMI, have you heard anything on why the 14th HG quit?
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Nope that's still hush hush. Or a basic boring reason so no news traction. Spec is that she was to be the Sab and backed out. Could explain why Annie sucked so bad if she got the job at the last mo.

It's pretty bad when BBAD sucks after a big alcohol drop and a big HoH switchup...I said elsewhere: this people just don't have any pizazz compared to most other casts. They're like decaf coffee or low fat cheesecake-something missing.
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they just had the "have not challenge" and it looks like brendon's team lost...and man is his whinning...he just said to rachel while he's bending over like he's in pain..."every fucking night i'm gonna have to deal with this shit and she said, well i'll come down and stay with you and the feeds went out...i'll update when they come back from the trivia


hamsterdame is saying that Enzo, brendon, and monet are on slop and maybe hayden.


feeds just came back and they are all screaming and yelling...looks like they told the hg's that annie was the sabby lol
Edited by lexilani, Jul 16 2010, 06:29 PM.
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Julie's EW blog for this week.

What the BEEP! Oh, “Big Brother Saboteur,” we barely knew you! Sad to see our “Saboteur” leave the house tonight…I was eagerly anticipating a summer full of crazy Big Brother fan-inspired sabotage.
I think Annie played the game well, but she may have shot herself in the foot by playing too hard too soon. After tonight’s show, she told me that the moment she entered the house she started playing her game, while most of her fellow Houseguests sat back and let the game come to them. She also admittedly didn’t handle being put on the block very well and reacted too aggressively. Whatever the reasoning, her HouseMATES delivered a resounding eviction vote of 10-0. Not one vote for Rachel – THAT had to sting!
She also expressed that the game was much harder than expected and that the realization that she could not trust someone she was sharing a room with was emotionally draining. I think she was also a bit embarrassed for being the first to leave, but overall grateful for the experience.
I do give her kudos for the bold yet failed attempt to save herself by calling out Brendon for lying about his profession. That move only strengthens the disdain the “Brigade” has towards the swim coach. And she even snuck in one last sabotage before walking out…tune in on Sunday to see what she did. A “Saboteur” till the very end.
Once Annie left the studio, I was standing on the stage thinking that the “Brigade” would maintain their control of the house, but then a curveball in the form of a red-headed “Have-Nottie” snatches this week’s HOH. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Rachel goes from tag-along to leader in the blink of an eye. That’s exactly what I love about this show. Do you think her “showmance” continues or does she use her power in the game to snuggle up to a more secure player? Comments, please!
Now that the “Saboteur” has been ousted and with a new HOH in place, here are my thoughts on the current alliances inside the house. I’ve ranked the alliances in order of strength:
1) The “Brigade” Alliance (Hayden, Enzo, Lane and Matt): Despite Rachel’s victory this evening, I think they’re still running the show. But on the flip side, their moniker could be one of the weakest in 12 seasons.
2) The “Love Nerds” Alliance (Brendon and Rachel): This season’s inaugural “showmance” is hot and heavy for the time being. I think it’s safe to say that Brendon is camping out in the HOH room all week. Rachel’s victory tonight moved them from third to second place in the rankings. Both are very strong players – physically and mentally – and as Annie stated during her plea before being voted out, we could be witnessing the emergence of this season’s Jeff and Jordan.
*A quick dating tip for Brendon and all future love birds on this show — it’s probably never a good idea to ask one of your fellow Houseguests out on a date (once the show is over) while you’re still living inside the house. You never know where this game is going to take you.
3) “Arkansas’ Finest” Alliance (Britney, Kathy and Monet): Yes, I know Monet isn’t from Arkansas. I understand the regional bond between Britney and Kathy, but I’m still trying to figure out Monet’s association. Does Britney remind anyone of a younger Kathy without the badge? I predict this is the first alliance to break up.
4) Kristen and Andrew: One of the most peculiar pairings so far in my opinion. I’m still waiting for Kristen to pipe up a bit more, but maybe that’s part of her strategy. And are we starting to see hints of a second “showmance” forming between Kristen and Hayden?
5) Ragan: Poor Ragan. Either he’ll continue to be an outsider in this game or play the role of the all powerful swing vote at some point.
INSIDER FACTOIDS:
* We all learned during tonight’s HOH challenge that there was 330 gallons of sticky “goo” in Sunday night’s “Sweet Tooth” challenge. But did you know that there was over 1,300 pounds of popcorn!
* My personal favorite “fan-submitted sabotage” was one that suggested the “Saboteur” throw all the Houseguest’s food over the Big Brother wall. That’s called playing to win…depriving you and your fellow competitors of nourishment. I wish we could have seen that one played out.
GENERAL THOUGHTS:
* I love Kathy, but she really needs to lose that “Rub for Luck” shirt or at least wear something else. Wonder what her fellow officers back in Arkansas think?
* Enzo, no more sunglasses inside the house! If you’re using it as a tactic to avoid eye contact when you’re lying through your teeth that’s one thing. But I get the sense, the “Meow, Meow” simply thinks it’s cool. Love ya Enzo, but we’re not at the World Series of Poker.
* I’m not sure who was more emotional this week, Annie or Brendon. I understand Annie’s tears, but Brendon needs to man up a bit if he’s going to stay in the house.
* I’m guessing America decided Kathy was the “Saboteur” the second they saw her taking a siesta during the “Sweet Tooth” challenge. I’m not saying I could have done it either, but she may need to showcase a bit more physicality to stay in the game.
That’s all for this week. I can’t wait to see how the shift in the HOH impacts the game. Do Brendon and Rachel keep love alive; will we see a second “showmance” between Kristen and Hayden emerge; will Ragan jump into an alliance? Let me know your thoughts.
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Spec is that she was to be the Sab and backed out. Could explain why Annie sucked so bad if she got the job at the last mo.

Oh, that's interesting. Paolo, the 14th HG, is a dark-haired gal. If she was the original Sab, perhaps that's why they had Annie darken her hair.

I wouldn't be too surprised if Brendon is going to act like a big baby whenever things don't go his way. He seems the type.

Looking forward to Rachel's nominations. I've been checking Hamsterwatch all day. They're making us wait.
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bilki nom cerm is still going on right now...trivia is up. but last feed i saw it was supposed to be monet and britney for sure.

so we have brandon, monet, britney, and enzo on slop but one of their viewer foods is fish sticks....i don't know what brandon was moaning and whining over..nothing wrong with fish sticks---he's such a wuss. to give him credit he did later apologize to rachel for the the way he acted.

bloss thank you for the Julie blog...i couldn't remember where she blogged.

i thought it was very telling that when brandon and rachel had hayden in the hoh room and they tried so hard to get him to commit to an alliance with them and kristen that he still wouldn't do it. he still wanted to leave it open. but did tell them he wouldn't vote them out if he gets next hoh

Since this is only the second season watching bb...i'm curious. Rachel as hoh actually made "appointments" to see every hg...some twice. but it seems to me last season the hoh expected the hg's to come looking for them to talk. is there a "usual" way the hoh does this? I was thinking maybe since Jessie started out the HOH last season...and his personality is let them come to me...maybe last season wasn't the norm.

Rachel when talking to Lane mostly mentioned how she wanted a handshake or promise that he wouldn't go after her at least until jury time...and every now and then she would throw in brandon's name.

matt went to rachel and told her many reasons why he thought britney was the sabby...lol course once they told the hg's it was annie that went out the window.

Rachel also doesn't trust Matt and wants him gone too. i'm sure it's just my imagination because i dislike her and think she's a vegas ho but i think rachel was flirting a bit with lane. this was after brendon's melt down over slop....brendon keeps trying to get her to let him cook her something and she keeps telling him no.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOO! I know there's plenty of Britney hate around here but I don't want her to go, yet! I can't decide if that was a smart move on Rachel's part. I'd guess if Britney or Monet won HOH they'd probably put Rachel and Brendon up again, so it could be a smart move for Rachel. But I'd think she'd want to get one of those stronger guys out of the house.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rachel was flirting with Lane, lexi. She seems like the type that would chew up Brendon, spit him out and move on to the next healthy male. I just don't see her being turned on by Brendon's more "emotional" side.

From what I remember, the HGs usually go to talk to the HOH. Oftentimes, when they don't go to talk to the HOH it can be used against them as a reason for nomination. The old "You didn't take the time to get to know me" reason. I'd guess there were some HOHs that made more of an effort to talk to all of the HGs, and some who behaved like that dipshit, Jesse.
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The HoH plays out differently each season. Most times it seems the HoH is approached casually (to avoid looking manipulative) but as the season continues things often become tense. S6 was notorious for the Nerd Herd spending the entire time together in the room so that the HoH couldn't make contact with others. (It was a tight alliance that paradoxically had no trust for each other.)

Often, the HoH will send out underlings to *summon* folks to the room. Most aren't strong enough to remember the room can be isolating.
Edited by KMInfinity, Jul 17 2010, 09:13 AM.
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Thanks for the info about HOH and appointments. :)
They had the POV challenge and Britney won...yep u read that right lol. Now Rachel and Brandon are trying to figure out who to put up so Monet goes home. Enzo is doing a lot of whispering with the two girls like he's in their little team...but you know how that goes...when he talks to others he wants them gone.

so far they haven't decided who the pawn will be.
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GO, Britney!

I won't mind Monet going home. She hasn't done anything fun or interesting, yet. The best part about putting up a pawn is the possibility of the pawn actually being the one to go home. But from what I've read at BBDish, Britney and Monet haven't made any real alliances in the house at this point.

Is it just me, or is house much more mild mannered these days? I miss the fun personalities like Monica, Danielle, Dr Will, crazy Holly, Janelle...even Nakomis became a favorite of mine. I know it can take a few weeks for these things to develop. Jeff and Jordan didn't happen overnight. But those "pressure cooker" days seem to be a thing of the past.
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just turned the feeds on caught brandon and hayden talking...didn't say who was going up as a replacement but did mention a few who weren't.

then hayden went down to one of the rooms where kristen was laying down and said the back door is open...he thinks they are putting up Matt. and then he said to her that if either of them wins hoh next week they are putting up rachel. you'd think that rachel and brandon would get a clue that these two aren't on their sides if they can't get them to join up with them...

i read on bbdish that brandon actually told Rachel she could put him up to stop any tension in the house....she said NO...is he really that stupid?

bilki compared to last season this group seem to want to tip toe around each other. Though I have heard plenty of nasty remarks players make behind others backs. mainly monet and britney. I'm having a hard time with rachel and brendon wanting only strong players in the game...why wouldn't they want to get the numbers on their side first...if people are floaters and don't play hard it just means they could get them out later. just not getting their mind set. It does seem like the "Brigade" still wants to take out brendon first chance they get.
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On the one hand, keeping their tempers in check is smart game play. It can give a false sense of security to their opponents. Just look at Rachel/Brendon having no idea the Brigade wants him out. But as a viewer, it's not all that exciting to watch. I can take only so much of Rachel/Brendon rolling around and drooling all over each other.

Rachel/Brendon wanting to keep the strong players is a head scratcher. It's not like SURVIVOR where they need the strong to help keep their tribe from going to tribal council. Maybe because they've convinced themselves they're the sweethearts of the season they think it's a free pass to the finals. I'm going to have to start rooting for one to go home now. Anything to cause some turmoil in that house!
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There was a lot of stuff happening last night on the live feeds and BBAD....but yet... it was still boring as hell to view.

One thing I've seen for sure now is that Rachel is really, really, thinking and playing, or trying to play with her head. I still don't care for her and seeing her and Brendon kissy kissy makes my skin crawl but the girl is trying to think of everything possible while making her decision on who to put up. She's way above Brendon on thinking things through...I think cuz Brendon is too gullible and maybe his ego won't let him think the guys still want him out. But she knows better.

From reading another site, http://hamsterwatch.com/ the pov challenge was for them to hang in the air holding a briefcase as close to an hour without going over. And Britney beat enzo by a few seconds and he thinks (so do a few others) that BB was wrong and that he won it.

There seem to be alliances all over the place and like last year I just can't tell who is lying to whom just yet. Kristen really seems to be on Rachels side yet when Hayden talks about putting Rachel up next week she doesn't try to talk him out of it..or at least the camera hasn't shown that.

As it is everyone in the house seems hell bent on putting Rachel up next week and getting Brendon out....I've only seen two people, Kathy and Ragan, who don't talk about getting them out.

Monet more or less promised Rachel an alliance with herself, britney, enzo and possibly Lane and Matt if she put up Andrew.

Right now she's thinking Matt or Andrew. Matt went to her and told her to put him up to make sure that Monet would go home...but his condition was that he was to look like he was blindsided. He's looking out for her to make sure monet goes. and promises not to use her as a pawn or put her up if he won.

Then he goes to his Brigade and brags how he set "stupid" rachel up so they'd have a reason to vote against them next week. The guys are all getting a hard on over how smart they are.

Meanwhile upstairs Rachel is telling Brendon and Kristen that Matt is trying to set her up...so stupid rachel isn't quite as stupid as the stupid men think lol She says she thinks it's going to have to be Andrew that goes up and that even if he goes home she'll know where the house stands by going against her wanting to have monet go home.

when andrew comes in dumb ass brendon tells him all about it....and the two love birds have a tiff and some tears and make up a bit later.

Rachel and Kristen later talk it all over and it seems Kristen is giving her good advice. rachel says if she puts Matt up she will tell in her speech that it was his suggestion and that while she doesn't understand why he would want to go up she will listen to him. Myself, I think that's what she should do....but she's still unsure about going through with it and is still considering putting andrew up.

Andrew told her to do what she has to do and that he will not be mad at her but he feels if he goes up he will go home.



Found this from another website This was after BBAD--- http://www.bigbrotherupdates.com/postxf14063-0-195.html :
"Now we have another bedroom - Hayden and Kristen(whispering)

Kristen says she thinks Rachel is sticking to her plan(with Matt), but Andrew is still in play. She says she knows that Andrew isn't on anybody else's side. She says if he gets put up, they'd do whatever they could to get him votes..

She's repeating her convo from earlier with Andrew, about Rachel putting up Matt. They discuss the votes to get Monet out, says Kathy would do whatever they say.

Hayden says next week, Monet is gone. Britney can't win POV. She says either of them or Brendon have to win the HoH.

Now we get Enzo and Lane whispering, talking about putting Ragan or Andrew up. Enzo says he's going up tomorrow(Andrew?)

Enzo says the odds are in their favour, either Kristen or Kathy will go up..."


So it looks like Kristen and Hayden aren't going after Rachel and Brendon....at least till the next conversation.
Edited by lexilani, Jul 18 2010, 09:22 AM.
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I wonder how much it matters if Rachel puts up Matt or Andrew. And what happened to the plan to evict Monet? If Brendon doesn't win HOH on Thursday, I'd guess Rachel/Brendon will be back on the block, again. If she realizes the other guys want Brendon to go home, her plan for nominations should have been to get one of his strongest competitors evicted.
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bilki from what i'm getting the plan is to get out monet...not matter who goes up. Only monet and britney think that rachel may take them up on their offer to be in an alliance with them and put up andrew. They think if he goes up that they can talk the rest of the house to evict him.

rachel is getting assurances from everyone else that no matter what they want monet out. But she knows that it's a chance that they will turn on andrew.

Matt came up with the plan that if he can put get her to put him up as a pawn then they (the brigade) can use this as an excuse to put her and brendon up which would be going back on all the promised they each made to her. if she didn't put them up they wouldn't put her up. Matt thinking he is so smart had made her promise not to tell anyone he offered to go up. But she is so onto him and his plan.

If she did put matt up then monet would for sure go home but realizes it a trick on matt's part. myself...if she simply states right there for all to hear that it's his idea and she's just listening to HIM ...I don't see how anyone can "blame" her and use it to go back on their promise.

But rachel is also thinking that matt, enzo,britney, and monet are in an alliance and thinks that if she puts andrew up they'll (matt, enzp) convince the rest to keep monet.

and you are right that while she does realize she and brendon are targets next week...she's still afraid to put up enzo, matt, and the other guys.
as of right now she's still telling everyone she doesn't know who she's putting up. but she told ragan, brandon and i think kathy it's andrew.

she also said she's going to do something really shocking or something to shake shit up...i think she's planning on telling the house that matt wanted to go up.

don't know if you all know but hayden and kristen have been sucking face alot. both said they have a boyfr. and girlfr...outside the house. but evidently their attraction is stronger than their feelings for their partners.

i've listened on and off today and matt has really changed in his way of talking. he's almost acting "high" off is major plan to trick rachel into putting him up. so proud and vain and talking to the bb cameras...he's been trash talking rachel and brandon and bragging how he's going to put them both up next week when he wins hoh. real nasty piece of work this one. His last "big" scheme to tell rachel all the reasons that britney was the sabby fell flat because BB told them the truth after he talked to her.
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