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Buffy/Angel/Joss; Catch-All
Topic Started: Dec 31 2007, 08:17 AM (7,127 Views)
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Jan 17 2010, 05:03 PM
I agree that Joss needs to go to cable. Obviously the networks are full of idiots.
Haha.....you can say that again. Cable! Cable! Cable! Joss would be freaking amazing on cable and we need a new awesomely great show on FX now that Nip/Tuck is leaving.
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>> need a new awesomely great show on FX now that Nip/Tuck is leaving.

'Justified' looks great, starts March 16th...
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Not sure it deserved its own thread (yet?) so I needed a place for this.

Did we bail on this one too soon? Anyone watching it?

Vampire Diaries
http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/the-vampire-diaries-why-it-might-be-tvs-most-addictive-show--1034
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Jan 18 2010, 01:06 AM
>> need a new awesomely great show on FX now that Nip/Tuck is leaving.

'Justified' looks great, starts March 16th...
I missed this back in January but I've been watching the promos here in the last few weeks of Nip/Tuck and it's definitely caught my eye enough so that I already programmed it in my dvr. That guy Timothy Whats-his-name is so hot!

KMI--I bailed on the Vampire Diaries months ago. I caught a couple over the Christmas break and rather enjoyed them, I must say. But not enough to start recording again. I just love the evil brother.......he is sooooooooo BAD!
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Whedonesque has a link to an online review for a guy who is apparently well known in the TV blogging arena, with some decent cred as a freelance reviewer. I liked his overview, which explained the purpose of his TV blogging, which is not to *nit-pick* analyze current plot and story issues, but to...

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place it (television) within the context of the series, the season, its genre, and on occasion broad literary and cultural philosophies. While a fairly academic and analytical approach is generally employed, the subjects themselves are extremely diverse: from network to cable, Gossip Girl to Mad Men, science fiction to comedy, everything is both subject to criticism and, more importantly, open to interpretation.


He has never seen Buffy, and is embarking on a Buffy project, with the intent of seeing and writing about at least the first couple seasons ASAP. Could be fun to follow along.

http://cultural-learnings.com/cultural-catchup-project/
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Fun.

Yeah, I'll explore his site a little...
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Apr 11 2010, 05:42 PM
He has never seen Buffy, and is embarking on a Buffy project, with the intent of seeing and writing about at least the first couple seasons ASAP. Could be fun to follow along.

http://cultural-learnings.com/cultural-catchup-project/
How cool......I am jealous. Last summer it was ME taking that journey! He is in for quite a ride.
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Mentioned in another thread, I think, by KMI already... but beyond the maybe-rumor stage now... Joss directing The Avengers for Marvel. Cool.
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Myles is done with Season One. Such fun following someone else's journey.
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Apr 22 2010, 03:39 PM
Myles is done with Season One. Such fun following someone else's journey.
Thanks for the reminder....I forgot to bookmark the link. I just read his first analysis and and I'm hooked. Can't wait to hear his thoughts on Spike! Reading it makes me miss last summer and how fun it was posting about the show with you guys.
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The *Buffy Project* at Cultural-Learnings continues. Myles is up to S3, and his review of Dopplegangland is terrific. I heartily endorse it.

http://cultural-learnings.com/2010/05/29/cultural-catchup-project-doppelgangland-buffy-the-vampire-slayer/#comment-18587

And for those who haven't seen the list, EW has named the top 100 characters and Buffy is #3. (Behind Homer Simpson and Harry Potter.)
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Edited by KMInfinity, May 29 2010, 07:40 AM.
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Thank you KMI ~ http://insidemovies.ew.com/2010/11/22/warner-bros-plans-buffy-reboot/


Buffy the Vampire Slayer': Warner Bros. sinks fangs into reboot
by Sandra Gonzalez

Today, Warner Bros. announced plans to remake 1992′s Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which gave birth to the much-loved Sarah Michelle Gellar-headed TV series (which we all still worship unashamedly).

While details are sparse, filmmakers claim the movie would not revisit the vampire slayer’s high school days, attempting instead to capture the “witty, tough, and sexy” heroine in a new way. The team behind the project includes Dark Knight producer Charles Roven and relative newcomer Whit Anderson. The movie could hit theaters in 2012 or late 2011, according to the L.A. Times.

What do you say, readers? Is it time to bring Buffy back from the dead?


Edited by Gatekeeper, Dec 10 2010, 09:22 AM.
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The only way I want to see Buffy back from the dead is if SMG is playing her along with the rest of the cast. Although I have to admit that if they persuaded James Marsters to reprise his role, I would be there with bells on. I'm worthless and weak! :'(

KMI and Dax--you guys said something in the Shout Box about an interview with Joss. Do you have a link? I would love to read it.
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http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b212644_joss_whedon_reacts_buffy_movie_news_i.html

>> The only way I want to see Buffy back from the dead is if SMG is playing her along with the rest of the cast. Although I have to admit that if they persuaded James Marsters to reprise his role, I would be there with bells on.

Yeah. No rest of the cast. The people responsible for the bad Kristy Swanson movie only really have the rights (and HOW they still do is beyond me, really, but...) to the title and the concept. Everything and everybody in the tv cast (Xander, Willow, Giles, Angel, Spike... everybody) can't be in this movie.

Pointless. Extremely awful idea.
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I agree.

One idea was to reboot Buffy from the moment she learns she's the slayer (the original movie). Another is to redo Buffy and pretend seasons 4-7 didn't happen (so they can write a more adult, post high school script) and that just makes me MAD.

I would be a teeny tiny bit on board with a new cast that continued post-Sunnydale...though I am NOT loving the comic book season 8. The old cast has already said they are too old...unless there is a clear "time has passed" type of story. Marsters has said he won't play Spike any more at this age...but a bit coyly, so if the background story had him shansu then he'd do it. Most of the cast has moved on and I doubt they'd do it, sadly.


Edited by KMInfinity, Dec 11 2010, 08:17 AM.
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>> One idea was to reboot Buffy from the moment she learns she's the slayer (the original movie).

Sure.

>> Another is to redo Buffy and pretend seasons 4-7 didn't happen (so they can write a more adult, post high school script) and that just makes me MAD.

Impossible. Could not happen. Everything Joss (and everybody involved with Seasons 1-3) brought to the tv show is owned by Fox and won't be a part of this reboot (which... is comforting, in a way...).

Yeah, I don't see any live action stuff coming, only more comic books, and I have read mixed reviews about them (though I haven't read any myself, yet).

A Spike/Faith series to have capitalized off of 'the vampire craze' (Twilight and True Blood ARE why Buffy is being brought back by those thieves) would have been fun, but... nope. Won't happen.

(I do still have a season and a half of Dollhouse yet to watch, so I'm happy about that...)
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Dec 11 2010, 02:36 PM
>> Another is to redo Buffy and pretend seasons 4-7 didn't happen (so they can write a more adult, post high school script) and that just makes me MAD.

Impossible. Could not happen. Everything Joss (and everybody involved with Seasons 1-3) brought to the tv show is owned by Fox and won't be a part of this reboot (which... is comforting, in a way...).
Yeah that's what makes me especially mad. They'd have Buffy post-high school, but with a reimagined high school history.
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It's all just so shitty. The absolute balls on their press release to refer to the Kazuis as 'creators' of the property....

>> Warner Bros Pictures optioned the rights from creators Fran and Kaz Kuzui, and from Sandollar Productions (Sandy Gallin and Dolly Parton), for Atlas and Vertigo to produce.

Meanwhile, rumors are linking Heather Morris (Glee) to the new Buffy. Hm.
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Holy hell.

And these rumors say they ARE gonna have her 23 yrs old....

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2010/12/buffy-remake-eyes-heather-morris-we-pick-5-other-sarah-michelle-gellar-alternatives.html
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That is so strange...so freaking strange....
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As good as place as any to put this ~

Seth Green talks 'Robot Chicken,' Lucas and 'Buffy'
By Ann Hoevel, CNN

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* Kevin Bacon, Bryan Cranston, Megan Fox are guest stars on "Robot Chicken" this season
* Also lending their voices: Seth MacFarlane, Katee Sackhoff, Alyson Hannigan
* Seth Green is working with George Lucas on an animated "Star Wars" comedy series
* Season 5 of "Robot Chicken" premieres Sunday on Cartoon Network at 11:45 p.m. ET

(CNN) -- Know who's one degree away from Kevin Bacon? Thanks to the new season of "Robot Chicken," it's Seth Green.

Green, known for playing characters that make a lasting impression on pop culture (like Oz from the TV series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," Scott Evil from the "Austin Powers" movies and Chris Griffin from the irreverent animated series "Family Guy") has found critical acclaim with "Robot Chicken."

The stop-motion animated series he created with Matt Senreich won an Emmy last year for Outstanding Short-Format Animated Program and has earned Green multiple nominations for his voice work. Their "Star Wars" parody/tribute specials are endorsed by George Lucas.

Green spoke with CNN about the upcoming season. The fifth season of "Robot Chicken" premieres on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim on Sunday, January 9. (Cartoon Network, like CNN is a Time Warner company.)

CNN: You're pretty much cornering the market on stop-motion television. How hard is that?

Seth Green: The show's tricky. We do 20 episodes in a year, basically. It's 11 months from the time we start doing our writing to the time we deliver our post [production].

This year was longer because we folded an hourlong "Star Wars" special into the middle of our production, so it will wind up being 15 months when it's all over. It's a long, long process.

But we love stop-motion, and it's a really communicative medium. It looks just like film, and you see real shadows, and you see light and your brain registers something that's tactile that you've maybe interacted with. That helps you to believe that what's on film is actually happening, which makes it funnier. It's a medium that's rarely used for comedy, and I think that's a mistake.

CNN: Are you debuting any new action figures or characters this season?

Green: We got some Charlie Brown, some Harry Potter, some He-Man. Gobots, Matrix, Avatar, Buck Rogers, Transformers, RoboCop, it's a good one.

Oh! The "Back to the Future" -- I don't want to tease this too hard because it's so late in the season, but we have a "Back to the Future" crossover with Jay-Z ... it's not the real Jay-Z. It's pretty cool, we got Christopher Lloyd to do it.

I'm really excited about this season. We had Jon Hamm, Bryan Cranston, Kevin Bacon, Megan Fox, what a crazy year!

CNN: Do you ever have any guest "cluckers" on the show?

Green: In the closing credits? We've never re-recorded that since the first season, except for "Star Wars," and it was all the same people. In our post department, when Chris McKay was editing the show before he was directing it, he came up with that song and got everybody together to cluck it, and we've just kept it. No one's ever asked for that!

CNN: How awesome is it, knowing that George Lucas likes your work? How hard is it to control your fanboi around him?

Green: It's crazy. It's crazy stuff. We're getting to work with him now on this new animated thing, and get to spend time with him actually writing stuff, and it is one of the more surreal experiences I've ever had.

And you have to just tune all that out and really focus on the work you've got to do to make what you're working on good. And not be overwhelmed by the fact that you're actually getting to do it. You just have to dig down and say, "All right, what are we trying to accomplish here, make this funny and good," and we can worry about the fact that we're, like, creating "Star Wars" together, later. [Lucasfilm has not yet formally announced the upcoming animated "Star Wars" comedy series project.]

CNN: Who's your dream "Robot Chicken" guest star? Maybe we can help get that out there.

Green: We've been targeting Harrison Ford pretty hard for a while now, and whenever people ask us who we're trying to get, we always go after him. Just because eventually he's going to hear it and either think we're so obnoxious that he's going to tell us to f*** off or he's going to come do the show.

CNN: What are your thoughts on the new Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie that's in the works (and does not involve creator Joss Whedon)?

Green: I saw that Joss wrote that open letter. Let's be fair, all he really said was, "Hey, this isn't even 10 years old." Are we really at the place where we're remaking "Two and a Half Men"? Is that really still on the air, and we're remaking it? And where is the need for that other than some kind of capitalizing on a trend. You know, there's no public outcry for a remake of Buffy, there's only the opportunity in pop culture where vampires are very popular.

If Joss came out and said, "I want to make a new Buffy movie," even if he said, "I want to do it like the reboot of Spider-Man. I want to put Buffy back in high school and I want to tell a different story with this character," I think people would go with that. But the fact that people who are not connected to it and were not connected to the show or any of the mythology that was created going back to the movie -- which everyone kind of agreed wasn't a perfect version of its potential -- you know, I think that really confuses people. It confuses the audience. They're like, "How am I supposed to feel about this?"

CNN: Will we see you work with Whedon again anytime soon?

Green: I have told Joss, publicly and privately, that I will do anything for him. Everybody that worked on that show gave me some of the best material I've ever gotten to work with. I'm super grateful for that experience and that opportunity.

CNN: Are you a nerd or a geek, and what's the difference between the two?

Green: Typically, by definition, nerds are interested in things that are not mainstream and may be subculture -- but subculture with usually a mythical bend or mathematic bend or scientific bend. So nerds are typically interested in subculture things that have to do with science or wizards or superpowers. Whereas geeks, I guess, usually tend to be the extreme version of that, where they're less able to relate to actual, other human beings that aren't interested in the same thing. Like geeks tend to be so focused and consumed with their subculture interests that they are incapable of communicating or interacting with other people; i.e., leaving the house or making dates or having social engagements.

Which am I? I've always been more of a nerd than a geek. ... You don't like that definition? Hold on, wait a sec, my partner disagrees. ... (Green's collaborator Matt Senreich furrows his brow at Green and speaks up.)

Do you know the difference between a nerd and a geek?

Matt Senreich: I'm sorry, I don't mean to interrupt.

Green: No, no, no, let's hear it, you might be an authority having dealt with ... (to CNN) This is Matt Senreich, who before I stole him away to make "Robot Chicken" was the editorial director for Wizard Publications, which in its day had five different banners that Matt was in charge of, including "ToyFare" and "Wizard," which were the premiere genre magazines for both toys and comics.

CNN: Matt, we love your nerd pedigree.

Senreich: All right! I just disagree with that [nerd/geek] definition. We always said that geeks were more into the pop culture subculture, if you will, whereas a nerd was more book-smart.

Green: So define that. So the geeks, you're saying, are into cosplay and D&D?

Senreich: Geeks are into what is considered pop culture [as if it were] a science, in a sense, where they know all the little intricacies that nobody else would pay attention to. Whereas a nerd is more book-smart, and is the guy in math class who can answer a million different scientific equations. That was the definition we always used at Wizard. We always catered to the geeks, and the nerds would end up reading if they wanted but may not. Nerds are more high brow.

Green: A slight difference of opinion here, a yin and a yang, if you will.


Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/07/robot.chicken/index.html?hpt=C2
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Awww.....that's so cool what he said about Joss. He's such a sweetie. And I agree with his thoughts on the remake.

So guess what we watched New Year's Day? Once More With Feeling, the Buffy musical episode! It was only my second time seeing it and I LOVED it, always wanted to watch it again. Logo keeps playing these Buffy marathons and since I don't have the dvds, I record ALL of them. Of course, my fave part was when Buffy and Spike were singing together. Gosh, I miss them!
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So the SMG pilot sounds much better in this description....

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Sarah-Michelle-Gellar-1028494.aspx

(and Cheryl, I have to be very careful of flicking through Logo while surfing. If Buffy's on I HAVE to stop...and then Mark mocks me and asks why I am such a loser sitting thru commercials to watch a show I have on dvd. lolol)
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It's intriguing, but still pretty iffy to me. I guess we have to hope that everybody in Siobhan's life is UNAWARE that she has a twin (possible, if they're so estranged). It's just too hard to suspend disbelief for a character's stupidity if they KNOW there's a twin sister AND wonder why their ____ is behaving so differently.

I'd watch the pilot, but SMG is not such a draw that I KNOW I'd watch the series...
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Joss Whedon working on new project ... yes, another one

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2011/10/joss-whedon-working-on-new-project-yes-another-one.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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In Buffy comics news, Juliet Landau is writing a Drusilla mini-series. That's fun.

Re: Joss - I saw a Cabin in the Woods movie poster at a local theatre... gonna be fun.
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The clip of CitW is awesome. Have you seen it?

The big Buffy comic news is really stirring up the old fan base. I'm not sure what I think....

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The trailer? Yeah, think we talked about it already, didn't we?

I did see a little on the Buffy controversy somewhere...

I still haven't gotten around to reading the Season 8 comics. Probably will 'someday', but I think the so-so reviews have dampened my enthusiasm somewhat... good, the story continues. Bad... it's not REALLY like the show was, is it? Even when captained by Joss...

>> buying the comics as they've been bound into arc-books (is there a term for it?)

The most common term for comics collections is 'trade paperback' (um, assuming it's not a hardcover...).

>>The entire S8 is now in a full size book.

Already? Amazon and wikipedia searches are failing me... I see 8 trades out, but I'm missing the all-in-one option...
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I was wrong...I tried to remember where I saw the book and realized it was an email from Dark Horse....

http://www.darkhorse.com/Zones/Buffy

And since I had the trade PB of each 5-issue collection I didn't read it thru...the hardback is only the first volume of 4 collecting 10 issues. Talk about repackaging.....

I agree the comics don't hold up to the show. I'm not a comic fan anyway, and have trouble with the flow of the story, the 'one-offs' that interrupt the story, the fragmented viewpoints, etc.... There will be a line, or a scene, or a page that captures the show...but only for a brief moment for me....
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Repackaging... yeah, that's pretty common. Forty issues equals eight paperbacks equals four hardcovers. Someday, I wouldn't be surprised if there WAS a 40-plus-the-related-single-issue-specials all under one cover (often called an 'Omnibus'... or DC's 'Absolutes' will collect a whole bunch of stuff - 20-25 issues of material in one volume...).

The Walking Dead comics come in paperbacks (six issues), hardcovers (twelve - that's my method of delivery), super-deluxe versions (twenty-four), and they even did a 'compendium' collecting the first 48 issues of story (it is a thick book).
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