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| Jenni | May 7 2010, 09:44 AM Post #211 |
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He control everyone and everything in the game and has done a great job of it. He forgets though that the people he keeps screwing over won't vote for him in the end. I think too that he might have been going to vote for Rupert until Danielle said that her and Parvati were a lot closer than he thought because as soon as she said that he told Jerri to vote for Danielle. |
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| KMInfinity | May 7 2010, 03:06 PM Post #212 |
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Yeah, rumor is that Parv convinced him to stick with the Rupert plan until Danielle's *slip of the tongue.* |
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| bilki | May 7 2010, 10:17 PM Post #213 |
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Candice got a cold reception at Ponderosa. Danielle was welcomed with open arms. I so love watching them eat and go on about how good everything tastes. Makes me hungry! Courtney is the best!!! cbs.com-Ponderosa When you scroll down, part 2 of Danielle's arrival is on page 2. |
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| KMInfinity | May 8 2010, 07:04 AM Post #214 |
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Great blog from jeff this week. I agree. And it's these kinds of blogs that tilt the judgment that he's sexist back the other way. Jeff Probst blogs 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' episode 12 by Jeff Probst Oh Rupert, I still love you, but after this season concludes you need shave the beard and create a new persona. The one has grown tired. The lovable pirate who always puts integrity ahead of winning has served you very well and you will always be one of the most popular Survivors ever. But it’s time for a change. Listen, to be fair – I know I could take the same advice myself. Get me a new haircut, a different colored shirt and maybe some new dialogue, cause I’m sure the same argument could be made for me. The Probst act has grown tired. But, I’m the one writing the blog so that means I’m going to continue to focus my attention outward on everyone else… and leaving the inward thinking for my therapy sessions. There were a few themes this episode. Morality, hypocrisy and exhaustion. All three of them in full force. It started with Rupert and Colby’s character assassination of Candice. The reason we brought Candice back as a hero in the first place was because she stayed loyal to her alliance in the Cook Islands. This time she is playing a different game. Surprise, she wants to win. But to listen to Rupert and Colby you’d think she had committed treason or some other terrible crime against humanity. Colby: “Candice is so weak. She’s so pathetic.” Rupert: “Self centered, greedy, manipulative. She killed us. Candice is a pitiful player.” Really? Isn’t she just playing Survivor like everybody else. This exchange really stood out to me as a stunning example of what happens when you are tired and frustrated and looking for someone or some thing else to blame it on. I don’t really think Candice is all those things anymore than I think Rupert is the savior he believes himself to be. It’s all part of playing Survivor and the game is simply taking its toll on these intrepid but exhausted folks. Case in point… RUSSELL & RUPERT THE ARGUMENT There is no doubt left in my mind. The enormous emotional wear and tear of back-to back Survivors is severely impacting Russell’s game. The man is flat out tired. The kind of tired that makes you irritated just to be awake, but so tired you can’t fall asleep. The kind of tired that lets you know you’re gonna bite somebody’s head off before they even say a word, you’re just waiting for them to so much as breathe… like a snake in the grass. As a result, the microscopic filter system that Russell had been utilizing when in social situations is gone. The ugliness that came out of his mouth while sitting across the fire from Rupert just made Russell one of the best candidates to take to the end because his chances of winning just took another nose dive. I’m not saying he can’t pull it out, but the odds are plummeting. It wasn’t even so much what he said it was how he said it. It was mean spirited, even for Russell. I’m not making excuses for Russell when I say he’s exhausted. He’s done a very good job of showing his true colors. But I do believe that the emotional drain this show exacts is hard for the audience to truly understand. The truly great players are “focused” on this game every single second of every single minute of every single day. That kind of intense focus is so exhausting that once the game ends, many Survivors take months to get back to normal. Think about it…you are in an environment that takes you out of your comfort zone, no creature comforts, where you cannot really trust anyone, where you have to watch your back at all times and on top of it all, you have to be thinking several moves ahead or you will lose the plot and your torch will be snuffed. As I’ve said many times before, I’m eating and sleeping every day while we’re shooting and even I am exhausted at the end of a season. I was a disaster after our back to backs in Samoa. This game is nuts. This season has been the most intense season we’ve ever had. I’m amazed at the level of game play from these contestants. We may never see something like this again. It’s truly been a treat, but it’s taken its toll. Look at their faces, their body language. On my list of players that are still 100% focused on the game and only the game, there are four: Parvati, Sandra, Russell and Danielle. All villains. I know that offends everybody else left in the game but here’s my rational: Colby is certainly a good strategist but his head has been in and out of the game this season and leaves him vulnerable. Rupert is a decent strategist, but he gets too lost in the morality of what he deems to be appropriate behavior. It’s wasted energy. Candice is very smart but she doesn’t commit fast enough and it’s a fatal flaw. Jerri just doesn’t have it in her DNA to only focus on the game. Jerri will take time to enjoy a moment or stare at a sunset… I mean really stare at the sunset…and though it’s a great quality in life, it’s not one that works well in this game. This doesn’t mean Colby, Rupert, Candice and Jerri can’t make it to the end and win. I’m only pointing out that right now there are four people who are truly focused on this game and with each passing day the toll of the game will make it harder and harder for each of them to focus. Those who hold it together the longest have the best chance of winning. FIRST IMMUNITY CHALLENGE I continued to be amazed at how quickly people will step out of a challenge for food. It happens season after season. People voluntarily stepping out of a challenge for immunity. Nuts. They always blame it on “I wouldn’t have lasted long anyway.” But after 20 seasons I believe it is simply evidence of Maslows Hierarchy Of Needs: Physiological needs – breathing, food, water – will always win out. Playing Survivor does not even make the top five. Much like Russell can’t help himself from saying ugly things with true malice, when you’re as hungry as these guys are, the desire to eat overpowers the less immediate desire to win a game show and a million dollars. Sometimes I understand that people believe in their alliance so strongly that they do not feel they are in danger so they take the food. But Colby was a surprise. I’m sure by now Donaldson figures I’m picking on him but I’m really not. Well, a little. But come on, this is Colby Donaldson. There are expectations that come with being the original hero. One of them is you never give up. The Colby of old would have stayed in that challenge until his arm fell asleep, then held on as it turned blue and only would have given up when the doctors pulled him out due to gangrene setting in. But the Colby of 2010 is tired. He stepped out of another immunity challenge despite knowing he is a major target to be voted out. Rupert & Parvati were the only two that hung in there. Parvati represented the villains, and her job was to defeat Rupert so they could vote him out at Tribal Council. Rupert knew his job – win the challenge so he could stay in the game. He did an admirable job, finally falling out due to a momentary loss of concentration. Sometimes that’s all it takes. Rupert, for all of my making fun of you becoming larger than life, I admire your effort in challenges. Parvati wins another immunity challenge. Parvati is a player. She fights hard on all levels and she always wants to win. Always. THE IDOL IS BACK IN PLAY After Russell played the idol at the last tribal council it was put back in play and boy what fun it was to be able to read the clue to the contestants. You could anticipate the craziness that was going to take place back at camp. And whadaya know, Sandra the lippiest Survivor in history finds the idol. The moment just after she found it – where she is trying to hide it on her person and then ultimately hides it in the jungle – is the kind of moment that makes all of us on the production side smile with glee and jump for joy. Those real moments are fantastic. But even better than the Sandra moment was Rupert deciding to put a rock in his pocket and pretend it’s an idol. And it worked. If not for this brilliant decision and subtle Emmy worthy performance, Rupert was a shoo-in to be voted out. This gave him life and a chance to stay in the game. Sometimes that is all you need. A chance. Rupert’s acting was a performance that nobody could appreciate more than Russell. Ironic, given that Russell is the one that fell for it the hardest. I’m telling you the man is exhausted. But it was fun to see Russell fail, right? It’s always fun to see the guy on top… drop. It reminded me how many times Russell has been right in the past. Not this time. He is slowly crumbling and if he doesn’t get it together quickly and wake up, Russell will not make it to the end. FIRST TRIBAL COUNCIL Colby was on Candice again at Tribal Council. I really don’t get it. His lecture at tribal council was an admonishment. Like a parent scolding their child for misbehaving. It could be the wear and tear alone or it could be that Colby isn’t used to losing and is having a difficult time accepting it. Either way it seemed misplaced. Candice is not even top ten of the dirtiest players in this game. If she were, she’d probably still be in the game. THE AFTERMATH OF TRIBAL Oh-oh. Russell is not happy. Russell: “I’m not fully in control of this game right now. But you know what, I’m gonna take control of this game so fast they’re not gonna know what hit ‘em.” Russell …just woke up. SECOND IMMUNITY CHALLENGE I loved this challenge. It’s exciting, it’s big and anybody can win. Parvati continues to impress me. I don’t know that Parvati and I would ever be great friends and I’m pretty sure she’d be a tough woman to date, but if I’m in a fox hole, with the enemy approaching, I’d be very confident in our chances if she was the one who had my back. The girl plays to win… at everything she does. Remember how I said Russell woke up. Well, he is wide-awake now. With immunity around his neck, he can now attempt to get back in control of this game. Russell’s attempt to break up his own alliance is a huge move. Big moves can cost you the game. Big moves can also get you to the final. They’re risky, that’s why they are big moves. Russell wants to win and he’s afraid that he may get left behind. This is what you call “going for broke.” It will either work or it won’t, but there will not be any middle ground. I appreciate the move. Whether it works or not, Russell’s game play continues to be one of the big reasons this season is so good. But he’s going up against Parvati and Parvati as stated earlier, does not back down, from anybody. THE LOVERS SPAT Russell and Parvati’s argument in the jungle was their first lovers spat. Go watch it again. They are behaving like a couple and they are arguing. Even their language is different. It’s the language of a couple. I know a lot of you are laughing at my ridiculousness, but I’m serious. I know they’re not a real couple per se, but their bond has gotten to a point where the language reflects something different from mere Survivor play. WHAT A LOAD OF HYPOCRISY Russell’s decision to bring in Colby and Rupert is a perfect example of the hypocrisy in this game. Russell who moments earlier had sarcastically called Rupert, “the second coming of Christ” offered to align with him so they could take out Danielle. First he approached Colby, who had no issue aligning with Russell. Then he approached Rupert, the man who despised Russell so much he had called him a “disgusting terrible human being.” They bumped fists like brothers, without so much as a word and just like that… they’re allies. That’s Survivor. Right there. Leave your morality at home. Save your speeches for the shower. Here’s the thing though. Russell’s move doesn’t surprise me at all. He has always said, “I’m a villain who is playing a game.” Rupert on the other hand has made his name and a decent living off being the morally superior one. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t stand on a pedestal and proclaim yourself the most moral of all only to hop off the pedestal the minute a better situation presents itself. Changing sides and changing your mind is fine – that’s basic Survivor. But you can’t have it both ways. Let me be really clear about something. I do not root for Russell. I do not root against Rupert. I do not root for or against anybody. I merely observe and comment. Russell makes no bones about how he plays. Neither for that matter does Parvati or Sandra. They play hard and they know it could cost them in the game. What is annoying me (now I’m the one losing my mind!) is the holier than thou crap spewing out of people’s mouths. Rupert just proved the point better than any rant I could ever make. He’d team up with Russell right now if he thought it would get him to the end. To repeat, there is nothing wrong with changing strategies, but the lectures about right v wrong have grown tired. Okay, thank you. I feel better now. I think I need to go stand in a good rain storm. Anybody wanna join me? 2nd TRIBAL COUNCIL Wow. I have to gather energy to continue because what happened at this tribal council was damn near historic. A breakdown. The wear and tear that I’ve been talking about this entire blog showed itself again. Danielle has played so hard. She has been so focused. She has given tremendous effort. But she lost it tonight. While Parvati remained calm, Danielle panicked and it cost her. She lost focus. She took Russell’s bait and he got inside her head. If only Danielle could have hit pause on the Tivo she could have gotten it back together. But Survivor doesn’t have a pause button. It goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. I would never criticize somebody for being tired. It’s a result of playing a very difficult game. It’s just the way it goes. There was a showdown. Russell won. Danielle lost. She played a heckuva game but she came up short. See ya on the jury Danielle. And apparently you can vote for Stupidest Survivor Move Ever at CBS. I hope neither Russell nor Rupert win Fan Fave..... |
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| Dax | May 14 2010, 12:06 AM Post #215 |
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Whee!, that was fun... I like that we had a final six of four villains/two heroes and three guys/three girls (who were, briefly, alliance-divided by sex, sorta kinda). I don't mind Rupert going because I think he's kinda a crybaby/sore loser. Wow, Russell is just the biggest asshole to ever play this game. (And that's even after seeing Fairplay take a shit in someone's bed!) Really hope he doesn't win an audience choice award. The editing of the Parvati/Rupert immunity challenge was really intense. Looked very difficult. Okay, so it was a 4-2 vote (Russell stuck with the girls), but I would have been very annoyed with Sandra if she hadn't played her idol the last time that she could have. Jerri's loyalty just seemed way too tenuous to justify the confidence that she didn't need to use it. Final five. Four villains, one (now rather lame) hero. Three threepeaters (Colby, Jerri, Parvati) still in it, and two on the jury (Amanda, Rupert). Two previous winners still in it (Sandra, Parvati), one (JT) on the jury. I don't want Russell to win. I don't want Colby to win. I'd probably be okay with Parvati winning, but I know that would annoy a LOT of people (including my co-worker that loves to talk about the show, and has insane perfect recall on so many bits of Survivor/BB trivia). I wouldn't mind Sandra winning (again). Playing twice, winning twice... that'd be a pretty awesome achievement. I'd be okay with Jerri winning. She's a pretty 'reformed' bitch, so much more likable now than when we met her... she didn't get very far (8th, 10th) in either of her other games... yeah, that'd be a good story. I think I'm rooting for Jerri. |
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| lexilou | May 14 2010, 07:08 AM Post #216 |
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I still don't like Jerri, but I don't care who wins as long as it isn't Russell. And at this point I think he's burned so many bridges on his way to the top there is no way he can win against anyone left. It's going to be so sweet to see him lose a second time. (I know that sounds mean, but I don't care). |
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| bilki | May 14 2010, 10:30 AM Post #217 |
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That reward challenge was fun. Colby acting like a big baby. I wonder if that's a dynamic he's had with his big brother since childhood. Jerri surprised me with her win. And then Russell got to be his nasty, little self because he didn't get picked. The way he goes on thinking he's the reason anyone in his alliance is still in the game. UGH! I love it when Russell goes after Sandra and she doesn't put up with his bullying BS. Parvati doesn't put up with it, either, but Sandra makes me laugh in the way she handles him. Can't believe it's almost over! |
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| Jenni | May 14 2010, 11:15 AM Post #218 |
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I think the back to back seasons is what's killing Russell. He did very well with his social game the first time around making everyone think he had their best interest until the end. He's losing his mind. |
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| blosslover | May 14 2010, 12:16 PM Post #219 |
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I liked how Colby was nuts in the reward challenge. It was wow Donaldson is awake, even if he is doing badly he isn't just hiding out doing nothing. At this point I think I am rooting for Sandra, which has me thinking WTH... |
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| Gatekeeper | May 15 2010, 06:34 AM Post #220 |
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I could believe what a total prick Colby was to his brother. I'm rooting for him to loose. He has been one of the biggest disappointments for me in Survivor history! Russell is the second on my list to loose or should I say not to win. He's just an ugly person but he has made this season entertaining. I didn't mind Rupert being voted off. I think I've had enough of him and his 'good guy' act. Right now I'm rooting for Parvati or Sandra. I really don't like Parvati at all but she's played a good game and so has Sandra. I'm not sure Jerry had done as much as the other 2 girls in 'playing the game' but it could be the editing. Overall I'm happy with the season. |
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| Jenni | May 16 2010, 05:20 PM Post #221 |
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Just wanted to remind everyone the finale is tonight, don't want to miss it!!! |
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| bilki | May 16 2010, 10:17 PM Post #222 |
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WOO-HOO! YAY, Sandra! Very happy with the Sandra win, though I would have been happy with a Parvati win, too. But I like Sandra better. I can't believe "America" actually voted Russell the player of the season. Loved Sandra throwing Russell's hat in the fire and all the hate he received from the jury. Once again, he looked like such a sore loser when the winning votes were being read. The maze challenge was fun. Colby looked so damned handsome at the finale and Sandra's husband was a big, beefy daddy. Nice that he got to come home for the Survivor finale. It's difficult to remember all that I liked after watching 3 hours. It all mushes together. |
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| blosslover | May 16 2010, 11:32 PM Post #223 |
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I don't get how Russell got player of the season either. I think everyone else split votes. I thought it was funny how Parvati reacted when she heard that Colby had the record for individual immunity wins. |
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| Dax | May 17 2010, 12:36 AM Post #224 |
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Fun outcome. I haven't watched all of the reunion yet, but I'm confused by something towards the end... maybe KMI can help... Russell indicated in one of his final 'to the camera' monologues that he knew he'd lost his previous game (though he and his fellow final four looked a bit 'prettier' in those, maybe they were post-game faked...?), but I thought the timeline was Game 19, then Game 20, then Vote Reading for Game 19 -- I didn't think Russell KNEW the outcome of the previous while playing this one... Did they cheat the 'diary room', or do I have it wrong, or is that thing where he said he 'felt' like he was going to lose, based on the final tribal?... Anyway, I love that he didn't get any jury votes here. A big Nelson Muntz 'Ha-HA!' at him... |
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| Jenni | May 17 2010, 06:03 AM Post #225 |
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Ok KMI, dish the dirt that you got, lol. I've been waiting to hear what's been going on. I was accidentally spoiled on the boot list this year when I went searching for the cast list, won't do that again. I'm gonna have to watch again Dax because I don't remember Russell saying anything about not winning the previous season. I think we can see why he looked so ticked off and upset at his first finale, he probably knew that he hadn't won either season. Hubby and I can't figure out why the rest of them hated him so much. Like him or not, both seasons he played a different game and it should have worked for him. It was the game, not necessarily how he is in real life. There's nowhere in the rule book that says you have to play the game with integrity. I'm glad he won the player of the season and also glad Rupert shook his hand afterward. i think it was little of Boston Rob to not even shake his hand. |
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| Cheryl | May 17 2010, 02:13 PM Post #226 |
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I know why they hated Russell. Because he's an ignorant, annoying, clueless asshole! He STILL doesn't get that he needs to play somewhat of a social game to win. I think he may be semi-retarded! And the only reason he probably won America's votes was because he pushed for it on all of his Internet sites. What pure out and out dickhead and sore loser. I didn't realize that Colby held the record for the most immunity challenges either. Poor guy. It makes his performance this season even sadder. I LOVED the fact that Sandra won even though she wasn't my fave the whole time. Yay, Sandra!!! :clap: |
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| jbrr1212 | May 17 2010, 03:16 PM Post #227 |
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Glad Sandra won, though she wasnt a favorite of mine in the beginning she really grew on me toward the end. I remember the same thing happening in her season so maybe its just because we dont see her much in the beginning. This is as Jeff said without a doubt one of the best seasons ever. Anyone see a Rob leads 1 tribe vs. Russell leads the other tribe season coming? Rob and Ambers baby is adorable. Loved JT snatching the letter and trying to throw it in the fire. Also loved Sandra and the hat. |
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| lexilou | May 17 2010, 03:37 PM Post #228 |
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Dax, I caught the comment from Russell also about him not winning the first time. I was a little confused as well. I am glad Sandra won, I liked her the best after Rob got the boot. And Rob's comment was spot-on - he played to win, Russell only played to make it to the final 3. After all the comments that Russell got at the first final 3, you'd think he'd have taken some of that to heart and been less of an ass this time around. I chuckled when Parv called him her pet. And I totally agree - SORE LOSER. He just doesn't get it. I saw the clip of Colby's first season and how excited he was for Tina to win. Compare that to the way Russell acted and I would have been ashamed to even know him. As for him being that way in the game vs. real life, I wonder if you can really be that much different in the game than you are in real life. You'd essentially be playing a character for 39 days so while I may buy that he might be a little nicer in RL, I can't see how he's much nicer, if that makes sense. edit to correct spelling Edited by lexilou, May 17 2010, 04:24 PM.
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| Jenni | May 17 2010, 04:00 PM Post #229 |
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I agree that Russell is a sore loser and that he doesn't have a social game. The first time around his social game was much better. I did agree when Rob said that Russell played only to get to the end not caring about the jury. If he could have not been as much of a jerk to them he may have had a chance. I didn't care for Sandra to win either time. She said that she had to fight to stay in the game because she never won immunity but she never fought, she only agreed with whomever they wanted to vote out to keep herself safe. She could have won immunity and admitted that her poor performance in challenges was strategy. I understand that flying under the radar is a strategy but I have more respect for the players that make moves and stick with them. Curious to hear what the "Russell Factor" is that they're going to put into play with the next hidden immunity idol; Jeff hinted at it on one of his blogs. One of my favorite seasons. Season 2 is on it's way here!!! Can't wait to watch especially since it should scenes with Jerri and Colby in it. Forgot to add that I LOVED it when Sandra threw Russell hat in the fire. She had no clue that was one of the first things he had done on the previous season. Edited by Jenni, May 17 2010, 04:08 PM.
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| Dax | May 17 2010, 04:02 PM Post #230 |
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Russell's probably a 'decent' person with and to the people that he cares about. But... yeah. I don't imagine he's putting on much of a 'character' or would be radically different without the cameras on him. The editors can manipulate a story, sure, but... no, we saw too much. He's a mean-spirited, egocentric-to-the-extreme bully. 'Playing the game' only excuses so much bad behavior. |
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| Cheryl | May 17 2010, 09:22 PM Post #231 |
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Where is "here", JC? Do they even air reruns of Survivor here in the U.S.? I actually wouldn't mind watching Australia again either. It was one of my all time faves as well.
:lmfao: So freaking funny!!! |
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| KMInfinity | May 18 2010, 01:59 AM Post #232 |
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Okay, trying to remember stuff.... Stuff never (or barely) shown in editing: *Joke I told Biliki: The Survivors have a private facebook account (or something similar) that isn't accessible to fans - I suppose set up by CBS so they have a place to blow off steam and express themselves without giving away spoilers. Right after the Season 19 Finale ended, right before Christmas (that's how long ago everyone knew Sandra won) Sandra posted a message to Russell and offered to sell him her title of sole survivor since she was now *The Queen* LOLOLOLOL *Sandra and Parv had an early *past winners* loose alliance; Sandra campaigned early with Boston Rob to keep Parv from being voted out so that Sandra wasn't the only winner left on the Villains. Neither wanted to be the only past winner at the finale, thinking it would prejudice the jury. *Parv knew Russell before the game started. (And maybe James did too?) Russell hangs out with a past player (Boo?) and knew Parv thru him. Parv is a close friend of the casting director at Survivor. :ermm: *Sandra's arguments at the final tribal council that she worked hard to get rid of Russell - lots of this stuff wasn't shown or not shown in detail in order to focus on the booted victim's story; in fact, Sandra had a confessional, never aired, where she intends to give her idol to save Rupert. But when she talks with Rupert he and Colby had become so swayed by Russell that she couldn't convince Rupert to go with her, and so she never reveals to him she has the idol. *Russell being a jerk was so common they didn't even edit a lot of it into the episodes - we were shown a couple instances of it - but he was so bluntly rotten to people to their faces because he *had the numbers* and didn't fear being booted. He rubbed his nastiness in people's faces, and then expected they wouldn't hold it against him. He didn't just *play the game* (needing to lie and backstab) he gloated and smirked and acted like a smart ass towards people who were weaker in the game. JT said in an interview that to win survivor you want to say and do as little as possible to get the job done. Russell never got that idea. He just has never realized that *making it to the end* as *the dominant guy* doesn't mean he is the winner. He just doesn't ever seem to hear Jeff, who says every season, multiple times, "power shifts to the jury, who you had a hand in booting..." *Some great Ponderosa vids. They had a post-FTC party,,which they don't always do. Kinda bittersweet, seeing some of these players obviously at their last hurrah.... *How did Russell know he lost 19 while filming 20, when 19 hadn't aired? That's being debated now, I haven't tracked down all the info. The two most likely scenarios being mentioned aren't very satisfying to me. 1. Between 19 and 20, there were about 2 weeks. The producers told Russell he lost 19 in order to get him to commit to playing on S20. (Don't like this for 2 reasons: First, I think Russ is such an egomaniac he would have signed up without the needed manipulating; second, he seemed genuinely upset at the TC in December, and his comment that he lost was filmed in mid september. If he was so philosophical about the loss in September, he really got all wrought up again by December. Because he know he lost 20 by then too?) 2. That segment was taped much later, this spring, and edited back into the show long after the fact. (Don't like this because it's just really really reality wrong. This would be gross manipulation beyond editing subterfuge, imo.) I'll keep my eye out for other info. ************************* I just LOVE Sandra. Wish I could hang out with her at a party. Lots of the survivors (not just this season's players) had a huge party the night before the finale, with lots of Sandra congratulating going on. Causing CBS some annoyance. Edited by KMInfinity, May 18 2010, 02:04 AM.
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| Gatekeeper | May 18 2010, 08:26 AM Post #233 |
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Thanks KMI for the inside scoop. :) Happy Sandra won and more happy Russell lost. I'm just sorry he won America's Vote. |
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| Dax | May 18 2010, 12:46 PM Post #234 |
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>> Russell hangs out with a past player (Boo?) That would make some sense - both have recently gotten some ink for pushing women around (Boo's victim allegedly being another reality show vet, BB2's Krista, best known as the girl that had the psycho with the knife come at her... and then... is she the same dummy girl Boogie proposed to?...). >> That segment was taped much later, this spring, and edited back into the show long after the fact. (Don't like this because it's just really really reality wrong. This would be gross manipulation Think that's probably what it was, though. Parv and Sandra also looked kind of 'refreshed' to me in some of those final on-the-beach-to-the-camera scenes. And yeah, that's 'wrong', but I think I like it 'better' in my head than the scenario that has the producers telling him Game 19's final vote. Most casual viewers, of course, WON'T notice any timeline discrepancy, aren't going to be thinking about when something was going on in Russell's life (or Rupert's when he did his back-to-back...). I just love if he's sitting in 19's reunion show knowing he's lost this game AND the next one, and (at the time) he can't even confirm that he's IN the next one... |
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| Jenni | May 18 2010, 04:25 PM Post #235 |
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Cheryl, I'm in MW Ohio. I ordered the DVD set from the library, seasons 1 & 2, the only ones I've never seen. Hubby said something during the final one on one scenes that all 3 of them looked like they had cleaned up a lot better than they normally would be able to. Thanks for all the dirt KMI!!! |
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| Gatekeeper | May 18 2010, 04:29 PM Post #236 |
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I also thought they looked better during the finale. I just assumed that they let them have soap or something. Argh! |
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| Jenni | Jun 1 2010, 09:48 AM Post #237 |
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Just read a post on Joker's updates site regarding Survivor/ BB night changes. Was looking for info about BB and read they're changing Survivor to Wednesday nights in the fall. Don't think I'm gonna like this. Joker's |
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| Dax | Jun 1 2010, 10:50 AM Post #238 |
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Doesn't matter to me - Thursday is/was so crowded - Wednesday's probably a BETTER day for Survivor to be on for me, but yeah, CBS putting The Big Bang Theory Thursdays at 8 was one of the biggest moves of upfront week... BB is W/Th/Sunday this summer. Starts 7/8. |
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| Cheryl | Jun 1 2010, 06:51 PM Post #239 |
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It doesn't really matter to me all that much since I tivo it but I'm leaning towards not liking the move. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!! As must shows do, the move will probably lose viewers/ratings. It had better not be canceled! |
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| Jenni | Jun 1 2010, 07:46 PM Post #240 |
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That's what I'm afraid of. It's been on Thurs nights for so long and gets awesome rating. It's a prime time slot. |
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