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Agree re: David UNTIL: you figure out he makes his living stealing from people who are vulnerable and also by exploiting the bigotry of people who probably don't deserve my sympathy but were also probably living close to the margin. Cynical exploitation of race....I didn't like him after that. And was surprised that Jenny didn't stick by her guns when she figured out he and his friend stole.

What I liked best was when she was trying to get her father to tell her a good reason not to become engaged to David. As it turns out, her dad wasn't interested in her intellectual talents but merely in securing a good economic future for her. I am sure it never occured to him to even consider whether his daughter might not deserve to be happy and secure in her own right. I was disappointed that Jenny didn't stand up for herself more, didn't see the value herself in furthering her education. But then she had only school teachers as role models for educated women.

Still: I remember in the '70's, when my father asked me what I wanted to do. I was a very good student, with an interest in science. I told him I planned to go to medical school. My father finished high school over the objections of his own father who had to quit school at 16 to support his widowed mother and younger siblings. He wanted my dad to get out of school as soon as he could legally do so at 16 because he needed the help on the farm. My dad finished hs half as a way of spiting his father. University was never in the picture for my father, although he would have made an excellent architect. My father was astonished at my ambition, although we both knew it was within reach for me, intellectually speaking. What he said to me was something along the lines of 'but what did I think I would do when it was time to get married and have children,' as he knew I would some day. Because obviously, I would drop all of that to be a wife and mother and that would just be a waste of a lot of education. If he had been astonished at my ambition, I was astonished to realize that perhaps he hadn't believed, deep down, what he always told me and my sisters: that we could be anything we wanted to be. BTW, there was never a point after I was about 9 or ten and my youngest sister was toddling around that I did not realize my father would not have been so enlightened as to encourage his daughters to hunt, fish, climb trees and otherwise be adventurous in our play, do home repairs and yard work and study math and science if we had had a brother.

I would have liked the mother to have stood up for her daughter more, although clearly she was much more aware of the sexual nature of the relationship between her daughter and her much older suiter. Also almost laughed aloud when Jenny wondered what all the fuss was after she lost her virginity: huge telling statement re: David.

Yes! re: Prime of Miss Jean Brodie. I saw that in the theater when I was 13. I was with a friend and I remember it was the first time I ever saw a woman's breasts in a movie (much more innocent times). I gasped out loud, and my friend dug her elbow into my ribs and shushed me. She was much more sophisticated and didn't want me to embarrass her. But really, I was just shocked. It seemed to me that in the scene before, the girl who was posing (can't remember her name right now) was just a little girl. I was shocked to see how big her breasts were (I was virtually flat chested until and then again after my pregnancies).

Loved the movie and have become more and more a fan of Carey Mulligan.
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