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| Topic Started: December 10, 2010, 5:34 pm (101 Views) | |
| alicelouise58 | December 10, 2010, 5:34 pm Post #1 |
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Just watched the home dvd movie of Shrek Ever After. My son and I thought it was a fun movie. I like how it references all of our favorite fairy tales. It has everything from the Three Little Pigs to the Wolf in Little Red Riding Hood. Reading the Brothers Grimm, Perrault, and Hans Christian Anderson, and others has made me a life long fantasy fan and explorer of the old classics such as Beowulf, the Iliad, Odyssey, and the Aenied. The first movie was the best one. It was only missing the delectable and debonair Antonio Banderas. It did show that Princess Fiona and Shrek were truly beautiful people. |
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| Blue Phoenix | December 11, 2010, 8:28 am Post #2 |
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'Delectable' is right, LOL! I still think he's first pick for Zacknafein. I've seen Ever After advertised, but I haven't seen it. It's good to see they're still being creative in the Shrek stories, all the little in-jokes and references are important in their 'tradition' of storytelling! ...'The Aenied'??? Wow, that's one I've never even heard of! I see you're not only a fan of historic literature, but it extends to the classics and even classic fairy tales? Very cool... I always thought fairy tales were cruel and harsh. I suppose that's what life was like back when they were first spoken/written. That in itself scares me! Ooooh... tell me about yourself. How old is your son/children? I have two boys, teens now. |
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| alicelouise58 | December 11, 2010, 7:27 pm Post #3 |
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The Aenied(I may not be correctly spelling this) was written by Virgil. It is the unofficial third leg of the Iliad, and the Odyssey. The hero of the story is Aeneas. I have 2 sons one is 28 and the other is 25. My 25 year old son has special needs. He will alwats be young at heart. He enjoys all of the Harry Potter movies and audiobook recordings, LOTR, and the Secret of Nimh. He also is a fan of Catherine Zeta Jones. Sometimes we'll roll the Zorro movies. We can then watch Antonio Banderas and Catherine Zeta Jones. It's a win-win scenario. When watching "Zorro" Antonio Banderas did make his case for being cast as Zaknafien. Fairy tales? Well, they don't call them The Brothers Grimm for nothing. I think they were used to teach life lessons. Many of them hit you on the head with the lessons or to quote Tolkien, "lay it on thick with a trowel".Hans Christian Anderson's stories, to me, qualify not only as literature but, great high fantasy. Reading them, I can't find an unqualified happy ending among them. So, you are right, the stories are harsh and bleak. The Shrek movies go a long way yo lighten things up. If you have seen the Shrek movies, many critics consider "ever after" the weaker of Shrekdom. They pique curiosity among younger readers as well. That is a good thing. |
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| Blue Phoenix | December 12, 2010, 10:55 am Post #4 |
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*is delighted to find so many interesting layers to be discovered with her new friend* Ya know, i'll have to dig out (or find them on the net?) all the old fairytale books and try them again, now that i've lived through a few of the harsher of Life Lessons myself. I guess we don't make it this far on the planet without having a couple of scars, huh? I hope to always wear them proudly, whether they were seen as accomplishments or horrors or just something i managed to live through. I'm sure I'd love your younger son; Harry Potter, Tolkien (i'm reading the collection of short stories edited by his son right now) and NIMH are all particular favorites. Also love Drizzt and some of the related Faerun/D&D novels, the Dragons of Pern, The Last Unicorn, the Ender Wiggins series, the Alvin Maker series, several Vonda N. McIntyre novels, and about 8,000 songs i've collected over the years. In short, my life is made rich by my two sons IRL, and is made even richer by the stories and songs that take me to other worlds, and especially made richer by the friends who help me create new worlds and characters to live in them. Escapism? Definitely. And what's wrong with that? You're right about Shrek being the lighter side of fairytales, and VERY right that anything that draws children (or adults!) into reading and discovering all that humankind has imagined is a good thing. My older son wasted his potential by not wanting to read until he came across Salvatore's first set of Drizzt books. Then he hounded me with many commentaries about what was in the books and why he loved them. ( "His sister does WHAT to him? His mother is that horrible????? How bleak..." "No, mom, that's really just a small part of the book. He survived it all and kept what was good in him and found his way to a surface world and almost died again but never gave up and found friends..." My heart broke, because he was recognizing that his life was not that different from Drizzt's, although he couldn't put his finger on it, i think.) After i've read a few of them again, perhaps we can have a discussion about what we each came away with. If you agree the fairytales are so harsh and bleak, what attracts you to them? (Am i going to find out you are one of those writers who have some really hard-to-stomach stories out there somewhere? lol. Even there, you wouldn't be the first!) |
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| alicelouise58 | December 12, 2010, 6:42 pm Post #5 |
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Fairy tales are harsh and bleak stories IN PART. However, those aspects of the tales are the parts; not the sum of the whole. In the best of tales, the hero or heroine comes out wiser, scarred, but, not ruined as a person. I too like the Drizzt stories, the Ender Wiggins series, A Song of Fire and Ice series by George RR Martin, Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake, various Star Trek novels, Harry Potter, Tolkien, Anne McCaffrey...and this is just favorites in the fantasy category. There's something good in almost every literary category for me! I hope that I don't have an unpalatable story in me. |
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| Blue Phoenix | December 12, 2010, 7:13 pm Post #6 |
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not exactly 'unpalatable'... it's just that some people's vision is darker than others can handle... but it still comes from the soul. You've never read The Last Unicorn, or seen the movie? (with music written by Jimmy Web and sung by America) Ah, you have a treat coming, I'd definitely recommend it! ...As for me, I think I have enough scars and do not wish for anymore, thankyouverymuch... I'd like some 'happily ever after' now. Have you written other stories, or is the one on ff.net your first that you've actually written down? |
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I think they were used to teach life lessons. Many of them hit you on the head with the lessons or to quote Tolkien, "lay it on thick with a trowel".
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