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Recent Issues - Elder Council
Topic Started: 13 Mar 2012, 15:22 (1,940 Views)
Santiago
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Flint Flagon
13 Mar 2012, 16:30
Fr. Francis Domingez
13 Mar 2012, 16:26
Ok iwill try to be polite as it appears my previous comments may ofnot been picked up on. Markus is not the sole representative of the Plains, in the same way that Varis is not of the Broken Lands. It is fairer to choose by head of Organisation, than by individuals based upon origin or legend. Those outside of the organisations then elect someone to represent their views.
It's also by my reckoning, the only way you would be guaranteed a seat on this council?
You are saying that the Lord Varis should instantly be granted a seat, despite his own actions againstthe will of the council? No surprise from one of his whipping boys.
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Dargan Drosilan
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Declan Doyle
You do not have sovereignty of the lands That falls to our King Kiya and the land belongs to the people. Besides this will party be to decide your personal guilt which I'm afraid exempts you for a seat.
Edited by Dargan Drosilan, 13 Mar 2012, 16:33.
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Matt Wicks
I would like to propose Slath i Faigh as a representative of the Fey Woods. Normally I might have suggested Marcellus, but obvious recent complications mean that perhaps another should be chosen, and I have heard much wisdom from that gnome.
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Rory Gleeson
Fr. Francis Domingez
13 Mar 2012, 16:31
I will put it this way then - Myself and my organisation will not bend to a will of a council that excludes from it those of us that have soverreignty upon land within Athesia. You wish for this council to truly be representative then you take the membership from those organisations present. If you do not then it is not truly representative of how we function as a council, and as such I am against any idea.
I do believe King Kiya is our only sovereign. Do you dare to call yourself King?
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Fulgrim Ironheart

How many times must this be explained to you Francis... you are not a sovereign, neither are myself or varis or astvhan or freki
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Robert Lower
Fr. Francis Domingez
13 Mar 2012, 16:31
I will put it this way then - Myself and my organisation will not bend to a will of a council that excludes from it those of us that have soverreignty upon land within Athesia. You wish for this council to truly be representative then you take the membership from those organisations present. If you do not then it is not truly representative of how we function as a council, and as such I am against any idea.
Oh I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, I'm just pointing out that it would be the only way for you to get onto the council.
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Andrew Kyriacou
Do you not have faith in your fellow council members to act fairly Francis?
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Santiago
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Kiya is my Liege Lord, He rules the united athesia, Under him I have sovereignty of lands that I govern and choose how to rule. My methodology for ruling has never been disputed, but I am not happy with the idea of one such aas Varis sitting in a seprate body deciding how the Lands granted to me by Kiya should be goverened. If Kiya has issue he can come and speak to me and as he is my Liege Lord and not Varis, I will listen. Varis can suggest, but I will not bow to the will of this seperate body unless its representatives are from all Organisations.

[OOC] We have sovereignty under Kiya to rule the lands for him as part of athesia, we have sovereignty, that is made clear by the players guide and the mechanics [/OOC]
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Aurzel
13 Mar 2012, 16:35
Do you not have faith in your fellow council members to act fairly Francis?
To be blunt - not in all.
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Dargan Drosilan
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Declan Doyle
(OOC) then by all means feel free to break from athesia (OOC)
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