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the generals battle map; weathering the storm
Topic Started: 21 Nov 2011, 23:40 (1,117 Views)
Lionel Typhoeus
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David Woodlock
Luxuries will eventually be useful for generals to upgrade force march which allows us to go places quicker. However this takes up a valuable slot in our forces.

Reinforcing Markus's point though, upgrading our troops does not increase their upkeep cost so focusing on only the upgrades in the coming years will not make them more of a burden. It will make them more powerful and be overall less of a burden as they will lose less troops in any given fight. Only if we need to recruit more troops then do we need a higher upkeep cost. In the future though the Generals will not be increasing our upkeep costs to the kingdom.

I to wish more archaeology to happen, however, wood is way too scarce for my liking. I would implore the scholars to try and research perhaps an alternative resource to use for archaeology as it would mean we can provide for you more. Perhaps eventually allowing us to use luxuries as an alternative source for example. Don't take this as me saying I want the scholars to do loads of work, you have capabilities to research new methods and by researching methods to do your archaeology without the need of wood would benefit all of us as we then have more wood to spread around.

Another note is if we do any expansion, at all, in the following year or in the near future we need to focus on areas that give us wood.
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Aurzel
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Andrew Kyriacou
As a note on your final statement: I believe increasing Lord Asthvan's influence in the desert would also be highly beneficial due to his innate trading skills in producing whatever resources are required.
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Matt Wicks
Do not forget that we also have access to Malus's Tome of Transmutation, a magical artifact recovered a few years ago that allows us to transmute any quantity of one resource into an equal amount of another resource at the cost of one residuum. This does not allow a resource to be traded for a rarer resource, but should we find ourselves with large stockpiles of food, these can be converted into wood for example.

While harvesting the desired resource types directly is of course desired, if certain lands have higher production, even in the "wrong" resources, these should probably be a priority. If we can generate large stockpiles of resources these can relatively easily be repurposed to any task. Having said that, that is not a free pass for every legend to gather whatever they can and transmute it, as our residuum is of high value as well.

Perhaps it would be of value to organise a planning meeting once the lords have their new resource allocations (i.e. at the start of next main game) where they could meet with a representative of each of the other legends, who put forward their unavoidable costs (like upkeep) and their desired expenditure for their legend as a whole. This would allow the lords to gain a better idea of where the resources can be used and to what benefit, allowing them to allocate what they have as they see fit, and with the best efficiency of purpose.
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Fulgrim Ironheart

I hate to agree with the dwarf but she raises a fair point, if expanding our borders is too risky perhaps digging for secret artifacts and weapons in our lands might be an alternate method of helping our defense. As an alternative arianna's dwarven methods use stone, a resource we can get more of easier without sacrificing our border defenses, any expansion into the fey woods is a dangerous front it seems
Edited by Fulgrim Ironheart, 24 Nov 2011, 03:10.
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Lionel Typhoeus
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David Woodlock
We do have the scroll but becoming reliant on it is not something I would want to do. I would hope that Athesia becomes self sufficient without the need for an small emergency button each time. What if in the future we have no access to the scroll? The scroll is stolen? or the scroll ceases to function? The scroll wouldn't be the first artefact we have lost. Also, as far as I understand all lands produce the same amount of resources for the civilisation level whereas a few areas produce less such as residuum.

Stone could be useful alternative to wood for digging. We would need to take Markus's suggestion though as we should find out how much resources we have to spread amongst ourselves.
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Andrew Kyriacou
Next time we are called into council we should definately aim to organise ourselves better between roles as well as inside our own ones. If we could have done what Flint managed to pull off earlier as heroes we might have been able to mitigate some of the damage.
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John K
A couple of things to consider when allocating resources, where did your most powerful army come from and who is teaching you your most coveted army upgrade? Knowledge and defence are not mutually exclusive.
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Arianna Thistledown
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Shannon Hall
Ah, Marcellus, so somebody -did- read my thesis. Of all the hands I expected it to end up in, yours I expected least. Unfortunately, your facts are not entirely correct. My method does still require wood, as well as stone... But still,I suppose, cheap for what it essentially achieves. Researching into an alternative for wood... hm... I can't imagine it would be easy to substitute it, the main structure of most tunnel builds uses lumber as support... The only thought currently popping into my mind would be substituting it with metal, but evidently this is needed by the generals, so isn't particularly viable.. now what else is there...hm..
Apologies, my mind is running leaps and bounds ahead of my mouth.
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Sir Alfred Eldan
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I am no lord, and as such I do not know much about resource production values and such, but from time to time I do hear interesting things spoken. One such thing was a very promising sounding postulation of resource production when Frekki's name was bandied about in conjunction with the hammer we took from Thane's corpse. It was my understanding (though I could be mistaken as I have not seen the weapon myself) that it had the capability of effectively doubling a region's producion by providing an equal number of a second resource as was produced of the original resource (appologies for not remembering what that second resouce was)
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Markus
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King Kiya makes a valid point, archaeology and further exploration of the lands already inside our borders has proved invaluable in the past, and should not be neglected either. I believe that at least two such digs have been funded this year, but it is for this reason that we need to make the lords completely aware of where they can spend resources, and the needs and benefits of each area of expenditure.

While this forum is a suitable place to talk of our plans, most of this will all be forgotten when the next threat approaches the kingdom, and we must have a plan to refresh each others memories with the resource requirements of each legend once the harvest have been collected and a new years worth of resources are at the lords disposal.
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