| the generals battle map; weathering the storm | |
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| martius248 | 21 Nov 2011, 23:40 Post #1 |
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*the door slams shut to the warroom at the bleakest time since the joining of the council* myfellow generals, we have managed just by the vagaries of fate to smash back the myriad hordes besieging our domain, while our demoralized routed units trickle into our barracks and we assess the threat of the remaining legions i call this battle council to list all current concerns, the hard fought wars of our men have seen us through this dark time, but i feel a forum must be opened to allow those valourous council members to coordinate with both the military wing and the lords of athesia. we fought back the wolves but make no mistake there are enemies still scratching at our door. poldrion, general of the shadowed woods & commander of the dark striders, |
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| Lionel Typhoeus | 23 Nov 2011, 17:10 Post #2 |
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David Woodlock
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Communications did break down early during this year's council. I do not think it was due to anyone's own fault but more we were all not allocating the resources we should have towards defense. Hopefully with a forum that Poldrion has suggested, which is more open between the legends of Athesia we can better co-ordinate the needs of the Generals to defending our lands. That is not to say we are greedy or you should devote more of your time to us, just that our job requires the co-operation of everyone and understanding of the council members if our lands are to stay under our control. Much of our intel and evacuation plans are up to the heroes to react to, Flint has been stellar at the last council in providing us with the needed heroes. Walls have saved at least two of our civilisations from going under this year so hopefully this has stressed to the Lords how potent walls are at defending our lands. I know I have requested on numerous occasions walls be built, but I am now relaying the success walls have had this year. Looking to the future we have to uproot the small dock we have on the eastern border. It is becoming a death trap and we are losing many resources to drow raids, our forces are too far away to provide sufficient aid. We have had to use up to 5 troops, regiments and boats to defend 3 villages on that side whereas the other 8-10 troops and regiments defend up to 14 of our villages. Those troops are better used in the centre of our land where we are better able to defend. This may seem harsh to those people who have lived out there all their lives but we can not afford to keep them there lest they become victims of the drow. As for the scholars I hear you are researching ways to give us a ranged advantage through artillery. I thank you for your time as this would be a great boon to us. If you find anything else out through your time researching and delving deeper into our past we would love to hear from you. Lionel, Warchief of Liadon & Glaive of the Blades of Courage. |
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| Aurzel | 23 Nov 2011, 18:37 Post #3 |
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Andrew Kyriacou
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It was my understanding that the reason the drow fleets were so succesful against our own was due to a logistics mistake, whereupon the drow fleet our admiral was to engage was believed to have a hero scouting it but turned out not to have. The resulting blind engagement meant a sizeable loss. I am no general but I believe it would be possible to hold off the drow fleets with two of our own, thus freeing the armies that were stationed there to defend the central areas. |
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| Lionel Typhoeus | 23 Nov 2011, 18:48 Post #4 |
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David Woodlock
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Just a note on scouting, even if we had scouted the force we would have lost there. We had just upgraded the fleet and had Tacitus leading the charge if I remember which is the maximum she could do. Despite that we still lost. Scouting only let's us find out what is in their fleet before we get there. Considering we only have salvaged warships as an upgrade and nothing else the only thing we can do with the fleets is charge in and hope for the best. Not to mention wood is in very scarce supply, ships not only take more resources than normal to upgrade but they also take wood which is in low supply. Being on the cost at this time is draining our resources more thatn we gain. On another note, I did forget to mention in my initial statement the new forces we did gain were thanks to my Elder Varis. Through his donation we gained a bigger fleet, more troops, elementals and some brigades to bolster our ranks. |
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| Markus | 23 Nov 2011, 18:52 Post #5 |
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Matt Wicks
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I would also like to add to this our sincerest thanks to the Lords of Athesia. I am aware that it was uncomfortable early on for the lords to find that the generals were unwilling to allow for any expansion this year, however the swift release of large quantities of resources to be put at the army's disposal went a long way to minimising the losses that were sustained. An early commitment from Varis led to widespread recruitment, and the resources from Asthvan more than covered the losses sustained throughout the battles. The salvaged drow flotilla was the only unit that was upgraded this year and subsequently routed, and I know that the recruitment drive, and the larger forces that we could then field, led to many lives being saved. I estimate that once our units are reformed the forces of Athesia should have grown by almost 60% in this year, an impressive achievement, and hopefully one that will safeguard our kingdom against future threats. With this said however, while the armies of Athesia are indeed more numerous, they are still lacking in equipment. Our drive in the next year will be to equip as many of our troops with the best arms that we can afford. I know that it is not the news that people wish to hear, but the investments that have been made cannot be a one time occurence, and this drive must be sustained before we are able to truely push back the borders of Athesia once more. People should be under no misguided beliefs, while people from all of the legends have rallied together to help where needed in the last weeks, this has been a wakeup call for Athesia, and we are not clear of these troubles yet. There can be no promises that this will be the only year in which the kingdom reduces in size. Know that the generals, as Im sure you all will, will always do everything that is possible to protect each citizen of Athesia, though at times the task before us is more than we can face. In the name of Unity we build these lands, and with Unity we shall defend them. Markus |
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| Varis Liadon | 23 Nov 2011, 19:12 Post #6 |
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Chris Burton
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I have 2 intentions with my resources next year. 1 build up Aton Thorvold into a self sufficient small town in a Fortress so we need not have to worry too much about it. 2 build walls around our lands. The first one will cost me 3 wood and 5 stone. The second will take the rest of my stone. Instead of taking more and more lands every year, i think as lords we should focus on making our current lands produce their maximum amount which includes building roads, upgrading tools, irrigation, etc. When we have our current lands to be bastions of resources and defence, we can look to moving on. The downside is that I am worried that our armies will get too big for us to sustain so what i am worried about is that by us putting all our resources into our armies we may put ourselves at risk. will the generals be needed as many resources as last year or can we look at spending some at improving our lands? |
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| Markus | 23 Nov 2011, 19:24 Post #7 |
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Matt Wicks
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I do not know what threats our lands will face in the coming years, but as best as I remember them, our plans for next year were as yours: to equip and upgrade our existing troops rather than continuing to recruit. We would always wish a balance between spending resources on developing the lands and the army, and hopefully this can be more even in years to come. Next year, our upkeep bill will be 2 residuum, 7 food, and I do not foresee plans to increase this radically in coming years. We would however like to start equiping our men with magical weaponry (at a cost of 2 residuum per army) and training in archery (2 wood per army), so this will be our focus. Metal and further food may be of use to us, though I do not anticipate anywhere near the investment made by yourself this year in these resources. One unknown however is the proposed siege weaponry that the scholars are investigating, the resources required to equip armies with these new weapons is as yet unknown, as are the benefits. |
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| Asthvan | 23 Nov 2011, 23:05 Post #8 |
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Benjamin Smith
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It would seem in the upcoming year that our main difficulty will be Wood shortages. With this, I am inclined to focus on the other resources to see what use they can be put towards. Upgrading borders is important, but ensuring resource income through roads will be important given that expansion will be very difficult; they are generally the cheapest way we have of increasing production (with Civilisation increases in particular being very expensive at the greater scales); the only difficulty is that they consume Wood which is scarce or Stone which will be mostly consumed in the building of walls (which are also expensive, especially once a Castle is set up; while a Castle does protect against Invasions, they demand constant Stone to maintain.) On the matter of walls, I would limit border defenses to Walls except on important sites such as Capitals or other high production settlements (such as those under the influence of the Dead Wastes' obelisks.) As for the other resources, Luxuries are of limited use since their main purpose is in further settling and expansion; the only other use I am aware of is in Marketplaces which reduce allow settlements to survive on less food. Food is also of fairly little use; provided there is enough to eat with a small amount of production left over in case of danger, Food is otherwise fairly useless. Metal can currently be used, particularly in the matter of ensuring all generals have access to a Garrison each year for any potential upgrading of troops; the ability to upgrade tools is unfortunately limited, given that I am the only Lord to have such ability and being the only Lord without lands that can benefit from it (as working other Lord's lands is much more expensive.) I have asked Arianna to work on researching a way to boost my capabilities with trade, which I hope may provide me a way to set up marketplaces more useful to my settlement's economy, but I cannot say what she may uncover while looking into how to best train appraisers and other such necessities of commerce. As you may have gathered from the above, I agree with Varis that it is necessary to limit expansion and instead focus on producing as much as possible from as little as possible. However, we should also turn an eye to any upkeeps or outgoing resources; while there are currently very few ways to limit our upkeeps we should look towards using them where sensible, and possibly look into other ways to reduce them as well. (A way to limit the constant degradation of stronger border defenses would not doubt make them much more viable options for defense.) While improving defense is necessary, we must remain careful not to become boxed in and unable to afford what we already have. [OOC Note: Since the map has not yet been updated, we do not have an accurate figure of next year's income in resources, which is going to make planning somewhat difficult.] |
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| Arianna Thistledown | 24 Nov 2011, 00:06 Post #9 |
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Shannon Hall
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Members of the court, Putting my word forward as a scholar, I believe it is also wise to consider excavation and archaeology. I will not lie that I am of course bias in this regard (I would jump at the chance my friends, but you probably all know this) We have ascertained that expansion is not currently feasible; but what about archaeology? Perhaps delving deeper will reap rewards that will make up for our lack of aggressive expansion. I have recently theorised a method of archaeology that can achieve in one year,to my knowledge, what another could do in 2...However, it does require resources that at this current point in time seem to be scarce. I've yet to put this theory into true practice, but experimented with my last expedition, and would gladly put my reputation on the line to prove this. Unfortunately I did not get the chance to prove my theories this year, and as Asthvan has pointed out, am researching the trading routes of the dead wastes as per his request. Hopefully something will come of it but I fear that on my own in this endeavor there is little I will be able to do... Marketplaces are certainly not my forte. |
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| Aurzel | 24 Nov 2011, 00:46 Post #10 |
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Andrew Kyriacou
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Arianna, I fear that despite the uses archaeology may provide it costs wood to my knowledge. Wood is currently at a premium and is therefore not very viable. As for the big picture, I too take the belief that we should upgrade what we have, both in terms of production and armies. If our armies are able to counter the enemy troops being thrown at them more effectively, then perhaps in a few years we could see another round of expansion; more slow and careful of course. From what I understand the numbers of armies isn't the issue, it's the versatility and overall strength of them. |
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