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| Angles & Djinn; Atenism's view of Angels and Djinn | |
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| 9tales | Jul 21 2015, 04:28 PM Post #1 |
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What is the views of angels and djinn in Atenism? |
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| AmarnaGirl | Jul 21 2015, 09:56 PM Post #2 |
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Hmm, that is an interesting question. Are you speaking of Atenism in Akhenaten's time,or the Atenism of today? I can't say for sure about angels,as I don't know of any references to them in Egyptian mythology,Atenist or otherwise. They are primarily an Islamic/Judeo/Christian theology,though there are some references to them in ancient Pagan religions and New Age today. If angels (or something similar) were known to Akhenaten,we don't know what he may have said about them,as very few of his writings have survived.Over the years, I have come across maybe less than a dozen Atenists out on the 'Net, and none of them have ever spoken of belief in angels. (This is not to say they do or don't believe in them,just that the subject of angels hadn't ever been brought up.) As for the djinn, since they are a figure of Islamic teachings,and pre-Islamic Arabian mythology,not native to Egypt,my guess is that they were unknown to Akhenaten,and thus Atenism. I don't know what Atenists today might think.
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| 9tales | Jul 22 2015, 12:40 PM Post #3 |
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That is what that my researches have led me to understand too. But I was wondering if anyone else had different experiences. I do know from experience and lore that most angels sound more like something out of the works of HP Lovecraft. In the gin actually sound like something more out of my ancestral fairy faith being of European heritage. Actually funny enough it was my working with the Abramelin system/operation that let me to Atenism as its method is reputed to be out of an Egyptian origin( Abramelin the Mage was said to be Egyptian) and except for the tacked on Hebrew symbolism and Goetic Dæmonology. But this is definitely an area of interest and warrants further investigation on my part hopefully others will also agree with me it's always easier to think in a group that is to think on your own sometimes when brainstorming. May your Sun never set! |
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| AmarnaGirl | Jul 22 2015, 02:53 PM Post #4 |
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Yes, it seems to me that angels are really more of a Judeo/Christian/Islamic thing,but like I said,you also see them a lot in Pagan/New Age thought as well. I know very little about Ceremonial Magic and such,so I can't comment on the topic from that angle,though I agree it's often nice to have others in the same camp when brainstorming an idea - you can get far more information that way. Unfortunately,as you'll find,this is a VERY quiet list now. In fact,I think I'm pretty much the only one here these days. I'm one of the Admins,and I try to keep the site up and running for the owner as best I can.
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| 9tales | Jul 23 2015, 04:09 PM Post #5 |
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Egyptian_fairy_tales |
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| Ankhemmaat | Mar 26 2016, 05:04 PM Post #6 |
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Egyptian mythology didn't have any beliefs in angels and djinns (Christian and Islamic concepts)and there were magical creatures in Egyptian myth but nothing really equivelent with those two concepts. So I doubt Atenism had any belief in magical creatures partly because there were so few, and it might take away from worship of Aten as people would be working to appease spirits and angels. And that sounds like something the Amun priesthood would propagate as a superstition, which Ankenaton was against.
Edited by Ankhemmaat, Mar 30 2016, 08:17 PM.
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