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We Are God; as posted on my blog @ atenism.org
Topic Started: Dec 13 2010, 06:36 PM (1,201 Views)
Meryre
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I wish to talk a little about Akhenaten. Akhenaten was born into the royal family of King Amenhotep III and Queen Tiye. There is evidence suggesting that Akhenaten’s parents were elevating Aten as the supreme God of the Egyptian patheon over the god Amun. They may or may not have been true monotheists although it seems Queen Tiye had a tremendous influence over Akhenaten and His beliefs. That being said Akhenaten I believe was born with the knowledge of the true God and that He was truly the Son of God. I would also argue that Akhenaten was the first human being in history to become ONE WITH GOD. So Akhenaten was the first human to be God. As Atenists we know that there is NO CONFLICT between science and Atenism. We believe in the big bang theory of creation. We believe in the concept of EVOLUTION. We know that humans evolved from primitive apes millions of years ago. EVOLUTION for Atenists is a core concept of Atenism. We not only evolve physically as a species but also spiritually as potential Godlike beings. All living things have a soul, but there are different types or levels of being spirit wise . Animals for example have souls that are very primitve and earthbound while humans are more advanced in their spiritual evolution. Akhenaten was the most advanced human spiritually being the first that we know of to become God. Akhenaten and God are ONE. We as Atenists if we embrace the truth of Atenism completely it is very well possible to be ONE with God. Only a very few select people in the world are capable of evolving to the next spiritual level of Godhood. That is why there are so few Atenists in the world. For only Atenists can grasp the TRUTH. Even many who call themselves Atenists may not accept what I am revealing and thus are not ready to become God. I fully understand this paradox, since you may call yourselves Atenists but may not grasp the truth and remain blind in the darkness. Perhaps in the next life such people may evolve spiritually just enough to finally become ONE with GOD. Akhenaten stated something few understand in His legendary Hymn to Aten when he stated: “And there is no one that knows you (Aten) save your Son Akhenaten, who knows your plans and your might!”. He was declaring the truth, that in His time He was the only one to grasp the truth of His own Godhood, that He was an evolved being far in advance of the rest of the world’s human population. 3300 years later Atenism has returned to this world because evolution never ceases and we have today the capacity for Godhood if we so embrace it. WE ARE GOD; embrace that truism. The rest that mock our beliefs in this matter remain primitives lost in the darkness of their own ignorance.
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It sounds like you are describing theosis which could be defined as the attainment of the likeness of God, the union with God, and/or reconciliation with God. It could be seen as the ultimate purpose of life, but only available by working with God through our own activities.
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I absolutely disagree with the statement that as Atenists we are supposed to believe in evolution! Evolution is an evil theory, dreamed up by the schizophrenic mind of Charles Darwin, and used by scientists as an excuse for their inability to explain the existence of this earth and all life on it.

The theory of evolution and Atenism can never go together! The idea that humans "evolved" from apes would suggest that Aten had created something less than perfect (in this case, apes) that then had to evolve (into humans) - this however would suggest that the Aten is less than perfect and therefore subject to making mistakes.

But as Atenists we worship the Aten because we know that the Aten is perfect and controls what is happening in the world.

I also disagree with the idea of animals being "primitive". To condemn any part of Aten's creation as lower than another part is a criticism of Aten's ability to create. Also, animals are so spiritually advanced that they in fact do not need to be reincarnated, thay understand the connection between all living beings and the Aten.

Humans, however, are full of love of material possessions, greed, jealousy, primitive lusts, corruption, dishonesty, hatred - it is in fact HUMANS that are the lowest of all creations.

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Ankhesenamun,

Your post above (forgive me - I just haven't figured out the "quotes" button yet,otherwise I'd have just quoted what you'd said,LOL.) is known to be a Christian Fundamentalist belief. I'm just really curious why you'd say what you said as applying to Atenism today,when that particular idea originates from a 19th century Christian theological background. Guess I'm confused here.
Edited by AmarnaGirl, Apr 17 2012, 09:15 PM.
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Believing in evolution doesn't involve thinking the Aten created something less than perfect.
The Aten is the light, representative that All is All, All is God. All "primitive animals" had to go through some sort of evolution in order to survive for millions of years. Since the Earth is made up of large separate rocks that collided over trillions or more years, its likely that different species originated as different species of bacteria from different parts of the universe, different because of their own weather conditions and distance from the sun. So Aten is compatible with Evolution. The Big Bang creation only applies to our section of the universe. There were other big bangs quadrillions of "miles"/light years + quadrillions of years before the big bang that produced our solar system.
The Creation that is depicted in the Bible can even be interpreted as evolution, if one replaces the word "God" with the words the Passage of Eons of Time.
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R. azz. miligi
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Moses's Monotheism is exactly like AkhenAten's Monotheism.
Moses was a messenger of God and AkhenAten was not a son of GOD
GOD is unique has no father and has no son.
Out of resemblance , out of comparison , and has no similar or like.
Edited by R. azz. miligi, Aug 23 2012, 04:53 PM.
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R. azz. miligi
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Akhe n Aten WaA RaA

His name prove that he is not son of GOD

Edited by R. azz. miligi, Aug 23 2012, 04:55 PM.
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R. azz. miligi
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You said this.....above.
I disagree with all of this ..... . We are slaves to the GREAT UNIQUE GOD.
IF YOU ARE ADMINISTRATOR IN THIS SITE AND YOU SAID SO PLEASE CANCEL MY MEMBERSHIP OR FELLOWSHIP .

Edited by R. azz. miligi, Aug 23 2012, 04:51 PM.
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Ankhesenamun
Mar 25 2012, 03:41 AM
I absolutely disagree with the statement that as Atenists we are supposed to believe in evolution! Evolution is an evil theory, dreamed up by the schizophrenic mind of Charles Darwin, and used by scientists as an excuse for their inability to explain the existence of this earth and all life on it.

The theory of evolution and Atenism can never go together! The idea that humans "evolved" from apes would suggest that Aten had created something less than perfect (in this case, apes) that then had to evolve (into humans) - this however would suggest that the Aten is less than perfect and therefore subject to making mistakes.

But as Atenists we worship the Aten because we know that the Aten is perfect and controls what is happening in the world.

I also disagree with the idea of animals being "primitive". To condemn any part of Aten's creation as lower than another part is a criticism of Aten's ability to create. Also, animals are so spiritually advanced that they in fact do not need to be reincarnated, thay understand the connection between all living beings and the Aten.

Humans, however, are full of love of material possessions, greed, jealousy, primitive lusts, corruption, dishonesty, hatred - it is in fact HUMANS that are the lowest of all creations.

Ankhesenamun
One, I don't think you have to understand evolution to be an Atenist (not sure how a scientific theory can be "believed in"). Two, I'm not sure why evolution points to imperfection either. Three, I'm not sure why this is here as this is a Christian Fundie belief.
Quite frankly, I'm really confused.
There is no evidence that Charles Darwin was schizophrenic, or that he "dreamed" it up, the evidence points to all animals on earth as having previous ancestors, including humans. The earth has been around for billions of years, even if created, things would change as is the natural course of time, unless you're saying that god intervened and stopped evolution, nor does that make it imperfect. Which makes no sense if there are clearly fossil remains of previous ancestors. Nor did I ever read about Darwin saying we were descended from apes or monkeys, he said we had a similar ancestor before splitting off and becoming early humans and apes, which happened over 7 million years ago. If we were descended from apes, there would be no apes, because they would have evolved into early humans and become extinct.
While I applaud your forward thinking idea of animals not being primitive, I don't understand how you got from that to reincarnation going from bacterium being the highest rung of reincarnation and humans being the lowest.
Humans aren't great, they lie, they steal, they rape and murder, that doesn't mean they are incapable of love, selflessness, and compassion. We are unique creations, worm and god, side by side, we are our own worst enemy and our greatest ally, all in one. I've seen other posts of yours and from what you've said, you have not had it easy or great in life, and I can understand why you would be misanthropic. I was that way once. I've dealt with my share of problems, and as an animal rights activist, I'm well aware of the evil and twisted depts of human nature, and its hard to believe that humans aren't all bad. But think of it this way, if Aten made us, he made nothing less than perfect, that applies to humans as well nor would he have made us so that we, almost exclusively, are the ones who praise and honor him.
The concept of "self" as a singular and coherent entity is a fictional construct, and an individual rather comprises conflicting tensions and knowledge claims (e.g. gender, class, profession, etc). The interpretation of meaning of a text is therefore dependent on a reader's own personal concept of self.
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An Invocation of Aten for the purpose of spreading truth, love and peace.

"O Great Aten, shower forth thy truth into the minds of the discerning such that the actual truth shall rise to preeminence and the untruths shall fall into obscurity. We honor and venerate thy unconditional love for all thy creation, and we seek to become At One with thee in purpose by adhering to thy law of love. We uphold and defend all human beings' rights, liberties and freedoms in order to establish peace and true justice, which is according to thy will and pleasure. We venerate and hallow thy will, glory, story, majesty and power, forever and ever. So mote shall it be."
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