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KILLER GAME 7: Umineko - Game Room; Hide the truth inside the fantasy
Topic Started: Sep 24 2012, 06:05 PM (5,770 Views)
Revixy
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I enter the mansion floor after overhearing Toipilas from the outside.
As I enter I point my finger at Toipilas.
"Toipilas, I vote to confine thee, as I find your actions suspicious! I find it very unlikely for you to just 'find' the source by coincidence."
I sigh.
"If you can proof your innocence I will stand by your side. But until then, do not expect my support."
Looking at Envy-Chan's corpse, I bow in respect.
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Heheh! Always a pleasure to see that people are still trying to solve this case! However, confining me for that precise reason would be futile for a couple of reasons:

1) The murder was done by the Golden Witch.
2) Confining a witch would be meaningless, as the True Culprit is a vessel. The Golden Witch cannot be stopped by confinement.
And, also, 3) My not being the Golden Witch has been declared in Red, making it an absolute truth!

The best proof I could gather is this search I made on Google. As you can see, the poem is the first result in the search. Whether this actually proves anything, however, is another matter entirely.

If you still suspect me of being the True Culprit... Please, feel free to confine me. After someone dies anyway while I'm locked away, everyone'll have to admit there's no way for me to be either culprit. Which would probably mean I'd be useless to both of them as a scapegoat and end up being the next victim, though. :P
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I'll place my vote on RayRay as well, then. Will check back after some sightseeing

Edit: Which I apparently still have a lot of time before!

The True Culprit has been killing immediately once their cooldown comes up, while the Golden Witch has been killing at their leisure near the end of their time limit. It's almost backwards. If the GW only needs to send a poem, then why wait so long between kills? The TC on the other hand has to write their kills, yet kills nonstop.

What if the GW and TC had contact with each other, and were sharing the kills? It probably would've been through a 3rd party. Then we were told the GW was given the ability to kill the TC. That probably soured their relationship. If they did have contact through someone else, it was probably Neko. That would explain Neko's death. If they were suddenly made into enemies, the TC and GW would probably want to kill their connection immediately.

Though none of that would make sense. If they had contact though Neko, then Neko would have had to uncover the identities of both killers very quickly and established the contact themselves. If either of the killers had made contact with Neko, they would already have the other one's identity, and they would've killed them rather than Neko, and if Neko did have their identities, why contact them instead of telling us?

Perhaps Neko's partner is the Golden Witch? Neko was a vessel, so if the partner was the GW with some kind of ability that made it possible.

But there's something else I find interesting about the Golden Witch's kills. The Golden Witch needs poems. The Golden Witch needs these poems. Some odd quirks in the poems (particularly the lowercase i's in the second poem) lead me to believe that the poems are being copy pasted off of the internet rather than transcribed from a physical source. Perhaps their kills have been so spread out due to a lack of access to poems rather than deliberate scheduling.

But I'm just making the world's most tenuous connections here. At this point in the game I'd believe anything. I'll entrust these theories to you, Toipilas.

My life is a chip in your pile! Ante up!


And Wesley wanted a vote tally by us so

Votes!
RayRay: 3 votes (Fuuinashi, Toipilas, Svbterfuge)
GOUDAAAAAA: All of the votes
Edited by Svbterfuge, Oct 6 2012, 03:15 PM.
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"That's what I get for taking a walk in the forest. Okay. You've gained my trust. And I will obviously, withdraw my vote."
Bows in apology. ( FW, Update mainpage please. )

"Put my vote on Ray. Since I'm out of options."

"And this.. is for the fallen." Walks over to the piano, and sits down on the chair, preparing to play.


RayRay: 4 votes (Fuuinashi, Toipilas, Svbterfuge, Revixy)
Edited by Revixy, Oct 6 2012, 03:26 PM.
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Well then, this means RayRay has been confined. Votes RESET. One more confinement slot available.
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So, that's confinement for RayRay-san, then? We still have a couple of hours left. Maybe we should get someone else locked away, as well. We may not find the real culprit too fast with this method, but at least we'll have two more people who are guaranteed to be innocent. If you have any suggestions, please tell. I have some intuitive suspicions but we all know how well those have served us in the past. >.< Basically there are 5 possible culprits free at this moment: Kumaroar, Revixy, myself, Svbterfuge and NaturezForce. Naturally, I know myself to be innocent, but it's all but impossible for me to prove that. Three (or four, if RayRay truly is the culprit) of you should also know that you are not the True Culprit. The easiest way to prove that to everyone would, of course, be by proving you're a witch and not a vessel, but I don't know if that is even possible. And I doubt many of us are ready to reveal our identity just like that. For the Witch Hunter, for instance, it would pretty much mean losing the game there and then.

I've suspected the witch and the culprit of having been in contact with each other at times, as well. Ugh, it'd help our reasoning if we knew how many witches there are and what their abilities are, but I doubt we'll hear of all the abilities before the game is almost over. Oh, and as everyone has noticed, there's been an odd number of us from the start. Maybe there is or was a group of three over there somewhere. I doubt they'd all have survived this far, though.

If we ignore the first "death" of Orica, the only clearly Umineko-like kill has been her "second" death. Well the kill itself wasn't, but the letter was just that. Also, the poem in that letter was apparently written by the player themselves, or at the least I couldn't find it with my google-fu. Also, the person who committed that murder, has to have been someone who knew Orica was still alive. As for who that might be, as far as I can remember, the only one who publicly voiced out their suspicion of the matter was me. Perhaps I gave the culprit the idea? Most of you didn't take the theory very seriously, at the time, though, so I will have to presume the murderer (or their partner) to have some level of familiarity with such confusing matters.

It's almost scary how much trust you seem to put in me, by the way. :/

Oh, and also:
SETZEEER...!!
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It soothes my heart to see you all come together so. Mortality may yet stand it's ground.

But I wonder, is the Witch Hunter secluded in his tower perched over the mysteries of the Golden Witch? He seems very absent. I'd have expected more from such an essential individual.

Keep working together, there is much still to solve.

Do not worry to trust in Toipilas and Subterfuge, they may now be considered as the furniture of Truth and I shall therefore not allow them to deceive in any ways.

Also heed this. It'd be a waste of your ressources not to have both confinement filled before the next two hours. Survival is a matter of how many steps you can leap at a time. If you can designate a new suspect and gather three votes, I'll offer the fourth.
Edited by Fuuinashi, Oct 6 2012, 05:39 PM.
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I'll place my vote for Kumaroar. Now if you'll excuse me, wedding time
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Also voting Kumaroar, if only so that we'd have a chance of confining the most players today. Sorry, Kuma! At least we'll be sure of your innocence after this, right? :3

The Witch Hunter-san is probably just busy. I'm sure they'll create a wonderful Blue to shoot from their haven today, as well.
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Kumaroar: 2 votes (Toipilas, Svbterfuge)

Earth to earth. ......These final moments are told only because they were allowed by you.

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Revixy was returning to his guest quarters. Upon opening the door he was immediately greeted by an unfriendly face. Before Revixy could speak, his opposition swiftly drew a hidden knife and thrust it into his throat. Withdrawing the knife with equal speed, the Culprit left Revixy to choke on his own blood. Revixy attempted to flee, but he made it only a few meters down the hallway before collapsing, never to arise.

Revixy died on October 6th, 7:22PM.


Even after escaping the forest's pull, Revixy was slain. There was no elegance to this kill so surely all have realized it is again the True Culprit's doing. As this proves RayRay's innocence, they are released from confinement. RayRay is immediately seen walking towards the woods. Let's hope she manages to return safely from her trip.

As there is no Detective to examine the body, let me give you a hand. Revixy was a roleless Vessel.
Edited by FreakingWesley, Oct 6 2012, 10:58 PM.
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Sorry for dragging you into this mess, Revixy-san. Thank you for your efforts. What a pity it was all in vain. Sorry for doubting your innocence, RayRay-san.

Stop going to the forest, people! That's where the witch lives! ;___;

Guess that reduced the amount of suspicious people on the island, but we're slowly but surely running out of time. If we don't catch the True Culprit before they kill again... I don't think there's much chance for us to survive. At all. It's extremely important for us to be able to confine two people tonight! And even then we'd probably need a miracle.

There are... two or three vessels left according to my calculations. And I feel stupid for not asking this earlier: Fuuinashi-san. Is your vessel still alive? Have they been proven innocent yet? :I Also, what makes you so sure of me and Svbterfuge-san's innocence?

I truly have my doubts about Kuma being the killer. The True Culprit has a rather fine grasp of English, so voting for her seems like a waste of a confinement slot. Naturally, this makes Svbterfuge-san seem even more suspicious. I don't know, it's useless, it's all useless! It almost makes me wish the Golden Witch'd catch the culprit! 8|

Unvoting Kuma for now, anyway. Voting for NaturezForce. Just because there aren't really a lot of possible vessels whose guiltlessness has yet to be proven left right now. If you truly are innocent, I challenge you to appear and prove it.

RayRay-san, Summi-san, as you two have both been proven not to be the True Culprit, do you have any suspicions? And don't you even dare try to go to the stupid forest, we really need you guys now. >:I
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Because you are my beloved avatars of virtue and I shall extend the purification of Red Truth unto you. You shall be nothing but pious and true, I swear it unto my ashes.

And as such, let me remind you that Toipilas cannot be the Golden Witch by virtue of the previous Red Truth and this one.
Edited by Fuuinashi, Oct 6 2012, 11:24 PM.
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On October 6th at 7:30PM EST(GMT-5)
 


Gouda was heartbroken. He seemed to be causing the deaths of every he came to help. "I am cursed by fate!" screamed Gouda to the skies, falling to his knees as tears streaked his cheeks. Then he heard a ruffle coming from behind him. Surely enough, it was the familiar face of Fuuinashi, the witch of Truth, come to check up on him. "Are you alright Gouda? The survivors of the island are scattered and frightened. They need you to stay strong and watch over them. We need to support each others." Gouda nodded, his tears stopping. He might still find a way to save someone.

Fuuinashi spoke once more, "I'd have a request for you."

At 8:00PM EST Gouda walked in alone into the dining hall, pushing before him a cart over which was a small TV and a VCR. He called for the attention of all survivors present on the estate with a small silver bell he took from his pocket.

After most had arrived, Turning on both apparels, Gouda took the remote and started a video.

The screen lit up with a recording of Fuuinashi sitting at his usual lounge couch. "Hi everyone, I'm sorry I gathered you all here on such short notice." He went on speaking.

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First of all, Toipilas-san! Don't stop thinking! You shouldn't just give up thinking like that! To doubt the possibility of solving these mysteries is the same as to doubt the rules of this game itself, as to doubt the sincere feelings of the hearts of both the witch and the Territory Lord!

Now, please all pay attention. As I have said before Toipilas and Subterfuge may be considered avatars of the Red Truth. As such, they shall never lie or deceive, otherwise we shall devour them. Now trust that Subterfuge cannot be the Golden Witch, for he is the vessel of the Witch of Truth. Also know that I shall not permit myself to exist in a reality where my vessel is the True Culprit.

Therefore Subterfuge is not the True Culprit. This video recorded on October 6th at 7:45PM EST shall prove that Subterfuge cannot be a Killer. Otherwise I shall combust before your eyes before the end of this footage. I hope this will help the few lost lambs left trust in him adequately, or motivate them to devour him should he have been deceitful.
Edited by Fuuinashi, Oct 7 2012, 12:28 AM.
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Wow. That's one way to prove innocence!
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All guests were focusing on the TV. Fuuinashi unleashed his Red Truth to everyone, showing them his powers' true nature. Every Red Truth, though, Fuuinashi was seen struggling to release the words. Not realizing what this meant, Fuuinashi kept forcing himself to let out his Red.

"Otherwise I shall combust before your eyes before the end of this footage."
, he said, blood escaping the corners of his mouth. He wished his death would be so quick and painless. He could no longer breath and every word he said felt like his throat was being stabbed by seven stakes.

Fuuinashi choked and died on October 7th, 0:06AM.
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Summi, RayRay, Kumaroar, NaturezForce. Should any of you not post today, it will be assumed you have lost your way in the woods and will be considered dead.
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Fuuinashi-san, I warned you about being reckless, did I not? *sigh* Thank you for this last clue you left us. Have a nice dream.

Territory Lord-san! What happens if someone tries to use their ability more often than is allowed? Are they considered not to have the ability at all at the time or is it just ineffective? Also, what would happen if the Witch of Truth declared a meaningless sentence in Red?

I have not been able to find any loopholes in that Red, at least without fully understanding how the ability works. I guess there's little doubt now, though. You are the culprit, Svbterfuge-san. Feel free to try to prove your innocence somehow. I'm changing my vote to confine you until you show us a wonderful piece of evidence that proves you were unable to commit the murders. There are certain factors that may make it possible for you to be innocent. Right now, though, even you yourself must admit you seem very suspicious.

However, if everyone else is already dead in the woods, it's probably indeed all useless. I understand there's nothing I could do by myself. I guess even Witch Hunter-san has abandoned this mystery already.

Oh, and just by the way: Fuuinashi held no role, riiiiight~?
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Their ability would be considered ineffective, though I had removed the shackles of Fuuinashi's ability and allowed him to submerge everyone in Red for how much as he wished to. I'm not one to limit someone's true potential. And indeed: Fuuinashi did not hold a role.

The possibility of winning is still here, though small. Will you be able to create a miracle? Alas, it seems too late for the Witch of Miracles to make her grand entrance.

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On the other hand, wouldn't you consider all lost players returning for just a moment to be a miracle? Has it been stated in Red, this fragment's Territory Lord?

As we have reached the end-game, allow me to reveal the strongest ability:

THE WITCH OF CERTAINTY
Able to predict deaths with absolute certainty.

Will be informed when a kill by the TC is planned, and who will be the one to die.


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Waitwhat happened?
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Fuuinashi apparently lied using the Red Truth, resulting in his death. It was neither a closed room, nor a brutal murder.
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