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KIRA GAME - advanced #7
Topic Started: Jun 18 2012, 05:13 PM (3,273 Views)
Sayuri-Chan
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Korialstrazs, EagleEye007 and NaturezForce are confined
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Orica
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First, I will post my general deduction eliminating certain people from suspicion.
1. Orica Myself, L
2. Summi my partner N
4. FreakingWesley Shinigami (I don't care what you say)
5. ItsuwariInnocent (proven)
6. RayRayInnocent (proven)
9 Mara Jade Dead

3. Curse In jail at times of death
4. Envychan In jail at times of death
11. Fuuinashi In jail at times of death

This is my reasoning. It is my belief that FW is the Shinigami.
It is also my belief, that around 22:15 on the 18th Kira tried to kill him, and couldn't. This I based of the fact that Sayuri was in her PM but nothing happened at all. This in itself isn't proof, but the next part increased my suspicion. My prediction was that another kill would be around the same time on the 19th, which happened at 22:20. In the event this actually happened, it would mean that Kira could only have been either Neko, Nycaz, Woncrievn or Korial. EagleEye, NaturezForce and Trefender had not been online yet at my first predicted kill attempt. The first supposed attempt is something you can not disprove unless Sayuri confirms it herself.

With the rather dramatic way of the two kill messages, the video and the detailed kill of Summi, to me all point toward the more 'dramatic' users of the forum. Being Korial, EagleEye, NaturezForce and Trefener. (Just because they usually have the more detailed kills)

Korial being the only one from that first group online during that first supposed kill and fitting the type of killing. He is definitely a kira.
Edited by Orica, Jun 20 2012, 04:34 PM.
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FreakingWesley
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Let us tackle your general deduction first, set you on the right track. This is a witches' game, after all. You need the help! Ahahaha!

I am the Shinigami.
Know that I was not contacted by a Kira who has tried to kill me. I found a Kira through simple deduction.

With this, I am able to construct the following blue truth:
Kira has not made an attempt to kill me. If the Territory Lord wants to confirm this in Gold, she may. If not, the truth is sealed inside the cat box and may be used as argument.


A check on your blue truth has been FINISHED.
I constructed part of the video.
At this point in the game, I was not aware of Korial's role.


You may pursue the theory with more blue truths, or proceed to the second twilight.
Edited by FreakingWesley, Jun 20 2012, 04:42 PM.
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Sayuri-Chan
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By this I will reveal the truth about what happened.. It's true that a Kira has tried to kill FreakingWesley. But he couldn't die because he is the shinigami!
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Orica
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What say you to this?

Korial is definitly a Kira.
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FreakingWesley
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Blue truth has to be reasoning. This wouldn't be a game if I would confirm the existence of witches with red, after all! These are the rules of the game and there is no reason to doubt them.

Your blue is INVALID. There is no reason to fight your blue.
Edited by FreakingWesley, Jun 20 2012, 04:49 PM.
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Orica
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According to my previous reasoning, and with the confirmation that the attempted kill did happen, there are only 4 people who could have been Kira at that time. Of those, Korial was the one most likely to commit the kills
All signs point towards Korial being Kira.
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Now this is starting to get very interesting. ¬3¬ Ghehe...
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Ahaha! Splendid blue! <Marvelous> Because I took so long to counter, I will hand you this twilight. Korial is a Kira. Know that the next won't be nearly as easy to win.

SECOND TWILIGHT

He who lays hand upon the key shall travel under the rules below.
At the first twilight, you shall lift up as sacrifice the six chosen by the key.
At the second twilight, those who remain shall tear apart the two who are close.


Give me your blue.
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Orica
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At this point, there are only 3 others left. EagleEye, NaturezForce and Trefender. According to you yourself, you helped with the video. This again, would be a rather dramatic kill.

The only one I remember going this far is NaturezForce, who would also put up a lot of theatrics. The video would be made by NF, and not the only text kill by Korial.
I remember NF being a person who would work together with other people and be an active player.
You did work together with him as a shinigami, by constructing a part of the video as you said before. You yourself also told me you figured out who was Kira by deducting it from the forum and then contacting him. In attempting to do this myself by looking through the forum, I found the most likely suspect to be NaturezForce. Out of those three, he seemed to want to make himself the least suspious by making funny posts.

All signs point towards him being the second Kira.
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Adding to this the fact that to my knowledge I have never known Trefender and EagleEye to work SO actively together with another person.
Edited by Orica, Jun 20 2012, 05:48 PM.
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It's useless! It's all useless!

Know that it took more than reading forum posts for me to find and confirm Kira. You limit yourself to three suspects and ignore those confined. It is very much possible for one of the confined ones to be found by me, make a video and schedule a kill. Your reasoning would just as well work on Eagle, Trefender or any of those who were confined and prematurely released by you!

Why don't you just give up and die?!
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Orica
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Then I shall extend my reasoning to them.

I had deducted that Envy somehow had a role. My conclusion became that she was either the Shinigami, or Watari. Seeing that you are the shinigami, my conclusion became Watari.
Curse hasn't been online since the 13th, as seen in the memberlist. It could not have been him.
Fuuinashi, this killstyle doesn't seem like him. He's the sort of type to write long stories, and not make videos.
None of the signs point towards these people being Kira.


Will you now ignore my original reasoning on the other three?

Again, I have never know either Trefender or EagleEye to work so actively together with another person. Espcially when that person would be you. (No offense) However, NaturezForce would be the kind of person to work together with someone to win. He seems to be the only one that would actually make a video message out of those three. Again, he seemed to make a lot of lighthearted posts to make himself look innocent. I have worked together with him before and remember some of his playing style.

How sad, that you would want me to give up just like that. Are you desperate?
Edited by Orica, Jun 20 2012, 06:04 PM.
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I will make you surrender this game. One theory per twilight, so I will attack the NaturezForce blue. If you wish to proof innocent the others, you may advance the ROUND.


A check has been FINISHED.

Trefender and I have worked together before. He would have lost without my help!
The video kill was my idea, not Kira's!

Oh, I am one yet many. Come at me!
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I do not argue whose idea it was to make the video, only the fact that the person went along with it. Again, the one who seems the most likely to go along with this is NF. As I remember him being one for the theatrics. You have yet to disprove this fact. The way he posted made him suspicious, as I said. Making jokes and not directly making much comments related to the game. You also have yet to disprove this. In so far, the innocence of the ones in jail at the time is not of importance. This is the reasoning that led me towards NaturezForce. This does not apply to the others at all, seeing as they did not behave in this way.

Are you desperate because I am right?


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Splendid, SPLENDID. I wouldn't want anyone else to do this with! Know that this will be the final twilight as the clock has run out. If you fail, the witch will be revived and none will be left alive!

If you lose your ground with this theory, you have failed the twilight and will DIE.




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<Die The death>!
<Sentence to death>!
<Great equalizer is The Death>!

NaturezForce did not pay much attention to the game because he was busy! This can explain his effort-less POSTS.

In your blue, tell me once more, why would NaturezForce be Kira and not someone ELSE? Not because of his POSTS. Just because of the videos?!

This is not enough to kill me, yet! Stake me with your blue spears!
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Orica
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Your reasoning fails. Despite claiming to have been busy, checking the memberlist frequently has shown that NF has been online somewhat frequently. If he was so busy, he would not have the time to read through the pages and claim that 'not much has happened on both sides'. Nor would he post that the first side to contact him would get his help. Seeing as he actually did this, it would suggest that he has a role. A good idea to either find his Kira partner, or one of the detectives, had they contacted him. This would actually add to my suspicion.

Again, if there is one person out of those three who I would expect to go along with your idea, it would be him.
Yes, it is largely because of the video.


Are you done yet?
Edited by Orica, Jun 20 2012, 06:46 PM.
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Fool! You doubt the red! Red is fact. Know that you are on thin ice and that your theory holds no ground in the eyes of the Readers and Voyagers!
Fail my expectations again and I will crack you open and tear out the guts!


I will repeat in red, NaturezForce was busy during the game. There is a difference between reading the posts and actively participating! He was not in a position where he could actively seek out other roles. His manner of posting is invalid as an argument! Yet, you claim he is Kira? If so, then tell me, besides the video, why he is Kira!




Right now, on this island, there is no other human than you. The only role alive on this island is you. Nothing outside the island can interfere. You are all alone on this island. And of course, I am not you. Yet I am here, now, and will kill you. Who am I...?
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I will not argue the fact that he was busy. Despite that he still offered his help towards the first person to contact him. Something that seems more likely to do in the hopes of finding out someones role. Not something one would do when he is busy.

In that case. It would be obvious. Because you claim he was busy, and did not have the time to seek out other roles. You did an excelent job making the decisions in that aspect, suggesting to make the video as you yourself said you did. You also had quite a lot of sway on the decision of who to kill, as you yourself also told me. (Still thanks for that btw) Someone would be more likely to listen to you in the event that they were too busy to find out things themselves, and had to somewhat rely on the opinion of another person. Not if they had more then enough time to plan out everything by themselves.


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