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| Topic Started: Apr 10 2009, 05:01 AM (1,653 Views) | |
| Cody Towner | Apr 15 2009, 10:30 AM Post #16 |
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, all WRONG! COme on, the moment they put an asterisk for the Pokemon RPers, then trainers will start going "Oh, I think if mine is good enough I should get the Pokemon I want too." And then they'll start pushing for that and then everyone will have the rare Pokemon they want. Why not just stick to the system in place? Is it so hard to wait for the starter list? Or just roleplay as a Pokemon already available? Try new things! |
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| Seraph | Apr 15 2009, 11:11 AM Post #17 |
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The words "Shut up Cody" come to mind, right now we are focusing on secondaries not primary. I think primary should have to wait for the list while secondary should get the choice sicne they ahve to work harder for their secondary account anyway. I had said in the very beginging that secondaries should get to choose within reason of what they start with simply because letting them choose from the list takes away from new players being able to pick somethign from the list. The requirments ensure that people who actually deserve secondaries get them, therefor one msot also conclude that if they fufill those requirments how much of a stretch is it to say they deserve the ability to choose what they want? |
| Cody Towner | Apr 15 2009, 11:24 AM Post #18 |
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The words "get over it Absol" come to mind as well. Whether it's your first or second player, it's still a player. The fact that they get 2 players is a stretch enough. It'd be a big stretch to say "Oh, and I want some more on top of that, like my own Pokemon choice". |
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| Seraph | Apr 15 2009, 11:32 AM Post #19 |
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Truthfully it all comes down to what the admins decide, BF will bring his idea to Shad and DS and we'll go from there :P |
| Xander | Apr 15 2009, 12:42 PM Post #20 |
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>> KK Just adding my two cents because I seem to be the only one with experience in this matter. If we have a Starter List by no way should anyone be allowed to bypass the list for any reasons what so ever. Anything short of that is undermining the list and is giving the member power to get what they want. While this idea is good in practice, it has been abused a lot in the past on other sites. The idea isn't horrible by thought, but in practice its not a good or a fair idea. While secondary accounts do require more from the member, that member may not be able to make a post to earn themselves the wanted Pokemon. I've seen it on two site similar to this, on one it was over used and had a high failure rate, on te other it was more successfull, but only because there was a choice of three and then the Admins chose the starter from the three. Just my two cents on this matter. |
| Seraph | Apr 15 2009, 12:56 PM Post #21 |
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If its such a bad idea why would an ADMIN think of it? |
| Xander | Apr 15 2009, 01:06 PM Post #22 |
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Because Ideas aren't bad until discovered that they are. At the time yes it was an awesome Idea, and the other site it was manditory as there was no starter list. The first site found a ton of failures and the second site got a bunch of mildly unsatisfied members because they did not meet the requirements for certain Pokemon. |
| Cody Towner | Apr 15 2009, 02:46 PM Post #23 |
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Admins aren't perfect creatures (Except DS of course) and are as human as us. Admins make mistakes too. And why is it when I say something, and I get "SHut up Cody" and Snow says something and he gets the intelligent responses? I call shenanigans. xD |
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| Tasogare Reiken | Apr 15 2009, 10:34 PM Post #24 |
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Its Service to the members. The Starter List cannot contain all species of Pokemon, thereby barring any Pokemon RPer from being something that is not on the list. I think this system, while it has its good points, is flawed for that reason. Therefore, what I've proposed is the method to circumvent that flaw by allowing the member to put in a lot of effort in order to achieve what they want. I don't think Members should just get to choose what they want. They have to work to find it. Its no different than waiting for the next Starter list update, except its Proactive. Sure, you can actively pursue a Ditto. That doesn't mean you are going to get it. But if you do eventually manage it, you can put it to good use. Edited by Tasogare Reiken, Apr 15 2009, 10:34 PM.
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| Xander | Apr 15 2009, 10:49 PM Post #25 |
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The proposed method isn't all that great as the member has to spend time in thier journey looking for a specific Pokemon to use as their alt, then type up the alt's reg, then go through the reg process, then release that Pokemon IC on their main account. Too much to do and not a fairly nice way of doing it. Also this sorta breaks the rules as now your Alt has met with your main therefore breaking the characters cannot meet rule. If they don't like what is on the list, that cannot be helped but if a starter list is provided they need to stick to that. Anything else is just a waste of valuable time for both the member and the staff. And the only "flaw" as pointed out isn't banning as there is a list on non-accepted Pokemon. They just at the time are not available, not banned. |
| Tasogare Reiken | Apr 15 2009, 11:06 PM Post #26 |
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When they are your characters, they never meet. When the Pokemon is your Trainer's Pokemon, it doesn't apply.
It is most certainly not a waste of time to obtain a Ditto for use as a Pokemon RPer character. And if it is, nobody would want to use it anyway. If it was that much of a waste of time, people wouldn't bother to try to get Ditto for their trainer. |
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| Xander | Apr 16 2009, 12:29 AM Post #27 |
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No its a waste of time to do all that just ro release it, and yes Technically your characters were in contact with each other. Once again Disecting post = fail. Why would anyone in their right mind do that sort of thing anyway? Go through all the trouble on one character to release it and RP as that POkemon. Ditto should never be RPd, neither should any of the Gold Rares. This is a useless topic on trying to get members to do more than necissary. The Starter List is all they need. They don't like the Pokemon on there then they can do three things. 1) wait until a new ilst is updated. If they don't like that then just wait again. 2)deal with the fact that what they want will not show up soon and pick an alternate. So what if what you want isn't on the list. You'd be a spoiled brat not worthy of anything if you just say everything sucks every week when there are actually many good Pokemon on the list. So what if you don't like them. It is faster to just start your journey and then search for your favorites then. 3) leave and start a site where everything you ever wanted happens. I'm sure you'll get the same complaints as you give and then see how the Admins feel about whiners. This entire discussion is pretty much pointless until Shad says what he has to say on the matter. Any other arguments brought forth are just cheap whinings until the Head Admin says what he has to say. |
| Jsol | Apr 16 2009, 12:35 AM Post #28 |
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Topic is closed until Shad posts his opinion. To staff: Just because you can post doesn't mean you should. |
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| DarkSlayer1331 | Apr 16 2009, 11:23 AM Post #29 |
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I love how it's assumed that everything is up to Shad. A lot of times he doesn't get to these things until a week or two later. Okay, here's my opinion.For Taso's way - Yes, it would be good, and I did like the idea. However a lot of other points were brought up and I'm apt to agree with Falcon in that it's pointless to play as a Trainer until you're deemed worthy of playing as an Eevee or whatever. Why? Because Trainers don't have to work hard to get the Pokemon they get, or they do, but they don't work for it to start all over with a completely different journey. For Falcon's way - Cody is absolutely right in that trainers will also want that rule to apply to them. And they should! It should all be completely fair and equal. With that said, I'm in support for being able to choose a Pokemon NOT on the list if you can come up with an AMAZING history. For example, my second character's history would be good enough for say, a Charmander, but NOT for an Eevee. At least I'd think so. In short, I don't like either one of the systems with the way they are thus far. I'd like Falcon's if it could work for Trainer's as well, not just Pokemon players. |
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| ♣Alternia♣ | Apr 16 2009, 06:47 PM Post #30 |
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@DS: Typically that's because I have the final say and most power of all three Admins. Just sayin', not that'd I'd abuse said power or anything; but that's the reason most people say that I have the final say. Anywho; I do NOT like Taso's way WHAT-SO-EVER. I just read through this entire topic (which reminds me, I typically read the important topics ASAP if they are brought to my attention TYVM, DS.) and have spoken with Falcon before about allowing pokemon players to select ANY pokemon they want to RP as (aside from Ditto, Eevee, other Gold Rares, and Legends of course.) But as I read through this I came up with something; Now that we have the rarity list up and available for members to see why the heck don't we just make a history length scheme where each ammount if worth a rarity if it is written well. Like say 500+ would be good for any common pokemon if the history was written well. 750+ for an uncommon. 1200+ for a rare pokemon. That way people know what they can reach for, and if they don't get to any of them due to length or just quality; sucks for them, they'll be forced to pick from the starter list. That's my take on it. However, if nobody likes that then I say we go with Falcon's method. |
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