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| Topic Started: Oct 16 2008, 09:33 PM (2,118 Views) | |
| Peru | Oct 16 2008, 09:33 PM Post #1 |
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Well, it isn't dead. I've been thinking and thinking AND THINKING about possible ideas, and most importantly, make this as thorough as possible so there isn't a reason for the spin-off to die, and for it to not die, I have to pour in an equal amount of effort. So first, I decided to start by lowering sea levels. This is the map of the new globe. Please note Atlantis and the three other small(by comparison to Australia) continents.  I also decided, that to make this work, I have to cooperate with people to make them WANT to play this game, so I decided, let's make some maps(Denmark's gonna be here right on quick), the year we would start at would be 1999. However, the maps can go any way you want. You could have the USA annex all of the Americas, have the middle east united under a caliphate, etc. Make the map how you want it, feel free to edit the terrain on the globe too. Because remember, history gets a big spin. If you make a map, for example, that has South Africa as all of southern Africa, explained how it happen, make sure to give the bare bone facts. Using the South Africa example, we'll say that the British got all of Southern Africa in the division of Africa by the European powers in the congress of Berlin(?fairly sure?), and when it became independent, it stayed together. Be sure to list anything that happened differently to lead to some of the events. This is for you to do if you feel bored and want to do something interesting. The idea here is that after all the maps are submitted, we have people vote on their fav. map, and that'd be the one we use, although we can later edit the history. The idea here is to, over time, piece together a huge, thorough, game, like the one we have right now. All other spin-offs had very little info available, but if everybody works together to make a true alternate history, we can easily get all the data we would need to start a spin-off full of information and one that will not die. If you want to participate in the map-making section of this, post here you are interested, and the maps will be due in two weeks for votes. The idea here is to have fun and make an enjoyable alternate history spin off, so if you don't want to, don't force yourself to do it against your will, I expect this to be somewhat popular and to have a lot of people joining in on this. 
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| Peru | Oct 16 2008, 11:27 PM Post #2 |
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To start it off, I'll show my map to encourage people. Explanations(long): Religion: A) Islam does not exist, their prophet was never born, so the arab tribes continued to fight each other until hinduism and christianity spread to Arabia and made them either hindus or catholics, and hindus and catholics from Persia and Mesopotamia hate each other because they continued to fight in the name of religion until 1975, and still hate each other. Catholics are from Mesopotamia, and Hindus are from Persia.  The reformation of Martin Luther happened in the Northern Nordics, so all of Western and Southern Europe remained Catholic(Modern day UK, Denmark, and Western Germany(Prussia) are catholic, anything south and west of them is catholic in Europe. Everything from Mesopotamia to Western Spain, the Balkan, and Italian peninsula are catholic, Israel is Jewish, Ukraine, Poland, Eastern Prussia, and the Nordic countries are all Orthodox Christians, where the reformation caught on, Eastern Russia is Hindu, Half of the Indian peninsula is Buddhist and part of Tibet, China is half Buddhist(Southern China), half Shinto(Northern China), Japan and Mongolia are Shinto, the Aztec empire believes in traditional Aztec gods, Inca empire believes a variation of Catholicism, god is the sun god, and accept a mix of beliefs from the mixture of religion, selected beliefs vary by region, Atlantis believes in the Greek gods(Was originally part of Greece in 100 B.C.))C) When Russia was formed, their king chose Catholicism, making it the only Easter European Country to be Catholic D) All areas not claimed by a country believe in either traditional African beliefs or pacific/atlantic variations of voodooism mixed with Aztec or ancient Inca beliefs. Countries: A) Basque was formed in 500 AD from a large chunk of France and a small piece of Spain, Basque, Spain, England, Atlantis, and France compete in oversea territories, Spain, Atlantis, and Basque are the most skilled at colonization. Reasons Inca and Aztec empire are still in existence. Aztecs and Incas fought extremely weakened Spanish, British, and Basque ships, raided technology, one ship full of books, one native learned the languages, and taught populations, respectively, colonial powers ignored new world for 100 years once the 100-year European war started, allowed Inca and Aztec Empires to start their own imperealism/modernization(think japan after Commodore Perry), when they returned after Europe settled, Aztec/Incas drove them off with technology equal to the Europeans, Inca made their own tech after learning about science, used to win. Aztecs where internally conflicted between religion and science, reason Incas advanced was that the Incas adapted Catholicism to their beliefs and managed to adapt to science. Atlantis was an ancient ally of the Inca and attempted to keep new world quiet for several hundred years from the other Europeans, 25 years later, Inca contacted colonial powers, gave up territory in exchange for a joint invasion of the Aztec Empire. Aztecs used to control all of North America, split between the victors, Aztecs allowed to continue existing, now hate Europe and the Incas. Asia was too tightly united by religion to colonize, and Africa and the micro-continents inhabited by savages, colonization limited to the Americas and small pieces of Africa. China/Japan/Mongolia competed for centuries for colonial gains, adopted European technology to conquest each other, eternal rivals, no more open warfare atm. Mesopotamia/Persia eternal rivals, no open warfare atm, Tibet pacifist, Israel pacifist unless Mesopotamia/Greece invade. European Alliances: Britian/Prussia/Basque/Russia/Greece/Mesopotamia/Poland vs. Spain/France/Atlantis/Nordics/Ukraine/Italy/Israel/Persia, equally balanced atm, Inca Empire neutral except against Aztec, Aztec hostile and isolationist, unstable. Superpower: none Potential: Inca Empire(territory, tech, diplomacy, lots of resources), China(Pop, territory, lots of resources), Atlantis(Extremely advanced in tech, resources, pop) Great Powers: Spain, UK, Basque, Atlantis, Japan, France, above candidates, Nordics Candidates: Russia, Italy, Greece, Aztec, Prussia Middle Powers: All other nations(No nation is extremely disadvantaged or else they would be annexed) More info to be added. |
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| Georgia | Oct 16 2008, 11:38 PM Post #3 |
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Wouldn't the ocean current so really off? How are the continents effected? It could make huge swaths of land much, much more hostile to live in the way it is. Especially with the lowered ocean levels - there would be a lot more deserts, me thinks.
Edited by Georgia, Oct 16 2008, 11:45 PM.
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| Peru | Oct 16 2008, 11:43 PM Post #4 |
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Well, let me start by saying it's possible for minor changes to have happened in the Earth's formation. For example, I could, If I wanted to, change the way the earth's terrain looks, get rid of mountains, add mountains, put in lakes, or get rid of them. I could make Oil be found in solid rocks instead of as a liquid, make methane the principle energy source, etc., but yes, there would be more deserts for sure. |
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| Georgia | Oct 16 2008, 11:45 PM Post #5 |
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I'd join in I guess, some agrarian people on one of those new bits of land - backwards a bit tech wise. What is the tech level? And what exactly is the grey guys on that map? |
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| Peru | Oct 16 2008, 11:49 PM Post #6 |
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Gray is Mongolia. Remember, people can easily migrate to new areas or settle in new regions. Was even considering making Siberia independent, but nay for now. The Aztecs are really backwards Tech-wise, and if you wanted the fun and can't cause serious damage, I could divide Africa into large tribes. Any criticism or suggestion you may have? Remember, this won't work unless people are happy with it and WANT to play 
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| Georgia | Oct 16 2008, 11:55 PM Post #7 |
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I laughed at the idea of a mongol invasion of New Zealand. I have a idea, a group of aztecs did not like the current law and taxes upon them. The grabbed a few of natives from the northern bit of the empire and boarded a ship. They ended up on that island in the south pacific and stayed there, mainly because there ship went down. And from the one colony they prospered alone. I'd be a aztec version of iceland. |
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| Peru | Oct 17 2008, 12:27 AM Post #8 |
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Haha, that's good  I'ma write that down in my notepad for this.
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| Georgia | Oct 17 2008, 12:32 AM Post #9 |
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Or aborigines could've fled from their homeland from the invading chinese/japanese and ended up settling that place in the indian ocean. The same could be for the fleeing Maoris and and people from papua new guinea ending up settling that spot in the south Pacific. I am guessing the caribs and tainos got eliminated completely too. I'd like to see the caribs or tainos try to survive. So what do you think about what should be the tech level? |
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| Peru | Oct 17 2008, 12:34 AM Post #10 |
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Hmmm......nations and war existed earlier than in RL history.....I'd say 1990 would have 2000 tech, Atlantis would have 2005 tech, Aztecs would have 1960s tech.......for comparison. |
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| Georgia | Oct 17 2008, 01:05 AM Post #11 |
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Hmmm, okay. The migrations would have to be a old event, but still would make separate and interesting nations. Carib refugees in atlantis from the time of the caribbean invasion? If it was the time that you said it was they'd be a separate ethnicity in atlantis. I like the baltic lake in place of the baltic sea.
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| Japan | Oct 17 2008, 03:02 PM Post #12 |
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If i decide to at the time, i'll join as Japan |
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| Georgia | Oct 17 2008, 04:17 PM Post #13 |
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Yes I will participate as the 'Aztec Iceland' with the Maori refugee guys. Need to decide down on a name, though. Maori will be the 'educated' language and Incan and Japanese will be the trade language. A Maori/ Nahuatl pidgin would be the common tongue. And Nahuatl would be the religious tongue. Very muddled, but it'll be interesting. Oh! Question, why is there land claim on greenland? And I am wondering what about the ocean currents - they could've made greenland much more hospitable (and smaller) and iceland and europe have similar conditions of canada. Edited by Georgia, Oct 17 2008, 04:22 PM.
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| Denmark | Oct 17 2008, 05:05 PM Post #14 |
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OMGWTFBBQ?!? Map tiem is nao! |
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| Georgia | Oct 17 2008, 05:11 PM Post #15 |
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Kay. Try to make a map of what you think the currents will be like.
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| Peru | Oct 17 2008, 07:07 PM Post #16 |
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Well, the colonial powers(Basque, Spain, England, France[barely]) all wanted to have good docking stations, and Greenland seemed ideal, as they're always shipping supplies to and from the colonies. Atlantis has their own ethnicity of Atlantians(light blue skin ZOMG) and the natives from the Caribbean live in Basque northern Atlantis. Atlantis is the most sophisticated nation in technology, culture, etc. and decided to give Northern Atlantis(Huge ass mountains) to the Basque to not start a war on the condition that all Caribbean people that are taken out of their homes by the Aztec in the 1800s. Atlantians are big on humanitarianism  Of course, nothing is final, and history can always be negotiated once we decide on a map. I hope Denmark makes his own
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| Georgia | Oct 17 2008, 07:10 PM Post #17 |
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Sounds like a very interesting ASB RP. I'll play as my odd Maori/aztec thing.
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| Denmark | Oct 17 2008, 07:16 PM Post #18 |
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Email me blank map please. Attach it to the email. Find me here |
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| Peru | Oct 17 2008, 07:21 PM Post #19 |
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Done, emailed, and I'm guessing it was the quality of the map after the upload, and you want me to send the original without the bad quality? |
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| Denmark | Oct 17 2008, 07:25 PM Post #20 |
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Yeah. Thanks. |
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