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Define A Liberal; by liberals for conservatives
Topic Started: Jul 6 2009, 02:10 PM (2,417 Views)
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I can't define it but when I see a car with an Obama bumper sticker I always think that there's an inlightened, decent and inteligent human being in that vehicle and when I see a McCain bumper sticker I think there's and big dumb, angry, oversensitive, ignorant, crybaby meathead in the vehicle..Those are gut feelings I get without thinking
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As predicted, the guy who placed last in the National Spelling Bee, the guy who needs a harem of women to hide away, the guy who is full of ______, has appeared.

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Thats honestly what I think when I see those bumper stickers RT..Honestly. And I rarely fail to display my disapproval towards the republican drivers when I see them..Usually with an obscene gesture or quick swerve at thier vehicle or a stare down at the very least. Ask my wife, she hates it but i'm trying to make a difference here.
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Jul 7 2009, 04:46 PM
Thats honestly what I think when I see those bumper stickers RT..Honestly. And I rarely fail to display my disapproval towards the republican drivers when I see them..Usually with an obscene gesture or quick swerve at thier vehicle or a stare down at the very least. Ask my wife, she hates it but i'm trying to make a difference here.
Thank you for displaying your compassion to fellow Americans and their right to freedom of speech.

You are not different from the Mullahs of Iran.


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According to The Patriot act you lost your rights when you sympathized with the domestic terrorists that shot that doctor. And all my gestures are protected forms of expression/speech.



Saw a good documentary on HBO last night
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Jul 7 2009, 04:57 PM
According to The Patriot act you lost your rights when you sympathized with the domestic terrorists that shot that doctor. And all my gestures are protected forms of speech.
Another paranoid liberal ....
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Sorry DB- I know you're right when you tell me it's a waste of time to bite on ResidentTrolls hooks, but my flights delayed and for this brief moment in time I don't have anything better to do.

RT- First off do you discount Thomas Jeffersons words because they were spoken more than 15 minutes ago? Or because he kept a mistress? I used JFKs quote because it aptly and succinctly summed up what liberalism means to me- but in my own words:

Liberals believe the well being of individuals is more important then the well being of corporations.

Liberals believe that we work better as a team then alone.

Liberals believe that most men and women work hard and do their best. When they need help, they deserve it.

Liberals believe that our planet is our responsibility, not an asset to exploit.

Liberals believe that if you make a mess you need to clean it up.

Liberals believe that we share the planet with other nations, not that we are the rulers of them all.

Liberals believe that some things are too important to leave to for-profit enterprise- things like military, fire, police, education and health care.

Liberals revere the constitution and seek to preserve the freedoms it grants us as citizens.

Liberals respect the founders decision to protect each citizens right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Liberals realize that living in a great nation costs money- the price of participation is taxes. We don't bitch about them every second, we gratefully pony up.

Liberals love America and Americans.

There's a start. Now prove DB right and tear it apart.
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Jul 7 2009, 05:12 PM
Sorry DB- I know you're right when you tell me it's a waste of time to bite on ResidentTrolls hooks, but my flights delayed and for this brief moment in time I don't have anything better to do.

RT- First off do you discount Thomas Jeffersons words because they were spoken more than 15 minutes ago? Or because he kept a mistress? I used JFKs quote because it aptly and succinctly summed up what liberalism means to me- but in my own words:

Liberals believe the well being of individuals is more important then the well being of corporations.

Liberals believe that we work better as a team then alone.

Liberals believe that most men and women work hard and do their best. When they need help, they deserve it.

Liberals believe that our planet is our responsibility, not an asset to exploit.

Liberals believe that if you make a mess you need to clean it up.

Liberals believe that we share the planet with other nations, not that we are the rulers of them all.

Liberals believe that some things are too important to leave to for-profit enterprise- things like military, fire, police, education and health care.

Liberals revere the constitution and seek to preserve the freedoms it grants us as citizens.

Liberals respect the founders decision to protect each citizens right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Liberals realize that living in a great nation costs money- the price of participation is taxes. We don't bitch about them every second, we gratefully pony up.

Liberals love America and Americans.

There's a start. Now prove DB right and tear it apart.
That was beautifully said, thanks bigtoe. :flagsmile:
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Bigtoe, social liberals today are NOT the Liberal Party of the 1960's. The 1960's liberal party has almost the same political bent as today's Liberatarian Party. Again, you displayed a complete lack of political knowledge.

Do you even know what the differences between social liberalism, liberation theology, liberating Iraq and political libertarism?

If you continue to read JFK's speech had a central message: Smaller Government, Lower Taxes, and More Freedom. He even spoke about his Faith. That's hardly the message of the Social Liberal Democrats who control the Democratic Party. It's a message of today's Libertarian Party and Ron Paul.

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Liberals believe the well being of individuals is more important then the well being of corporations.
Liberatarians believe in free markets, believe in real capitalism. Social liberals have contempt and scorn for corporations and the capital they generate. They despise profits because most can't discern how to produce them.

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Liberals believe that most men and women work hard and do their best. When they need help, they deserve it.
Christian Conservatives, who you demonize regular, seem to have the longest and most proven track record of doing good among their fellow man and around the world. In fact, conservative organizations and individuals, give far more money and time to actual welfare and health causes than any single social liberal organization or social liberals in general. Social liberals don't demonstrate in their policies that when someone works hard to achieve, they punish them for their results in extraordinary taxing models. Social liberals today are on the verge of becoming Marxian Socialist in their ideologies. Social liberals are willing to help when some one is down and out by forming a government agency and having the down and out person fill out sixteen pages of documents.

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Liberals believe that we work better as a team then alone.
I can't disagree with this statement, social liberals like to spread the wealth around so if you have a team approach to everything in life then put a governor on innovation and individual excellence. If social liberals administrated the Olympics, the first and last place winners would all get the same metal. When you don't have individual performance, you don't have anything to strive for. In general, social liberals enjoy mediocrity and that's why they will enjoy having the government manage ever aspect of their life.


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Liberals believe that if you make a mess you need to clean it up.
If this is true, why didn't you clean up the National Mall and Washington Monument grounds after BO's inauguration? Why don't all of you leave in the city, walk everywhere, compost your garbage, etc, etc, etc.

[quote ]Liberals believe that we share the planet with other nations, not that we are the rulers of them all.[/quote] This is an oxymoron because social liberals believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all, and that is the duty of the State to alleviate social ill and to protect civil liberatoes and individual and human rights. So here's a question a moronic social liberal needs to ask themselves when they make stupid remarks about America being the ruler of the earth...name one country that we have conquered in battle and didn't return back to it's people? By the way, cash in king and thankfully, in the past, we had the cash and that made up the king of capitalism.

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Liberals believe that some things are too important to leave to for-profit enterprise- things like military, fire, police, education and health care.

Again, social liberals enjoy mediocre provided someone else is paying for it. Conservatives believe that their is more brain power and innovation when their is profit motive attached to the work performed. If you truly believe these industries (except police, fire, and EMS) shouldn't be profit motived, then why stop their and have the airlines become government managed. Thanks again for displaying your lack of knowledge of how capitialism has increased the innovation and technology of our military and space operations.

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Liberals revere the constitution and seek to preserve the freedoms it grants us as citizens.
If so, you need to alert all of your social liberal judges who seem to have a knack at crushing the freedoms of the citizenry when they speech or vote against their personal beliefs. Social liberals believe in giving certain classes or groups special rights at the cost of all citizens.

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Liberals respect the founders decision to protect each citizens right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
Social liberals believe both citizens, illegal "citizens, " and combat prisoners have these rights. You seem to miss a few words in your statement.

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Liberals realize that living in a great nation costs money- the price of participation is taxes. We don't bitch about them every second, we gratefully pony up.
This is probably because most social liberals work in low paying jobs and are overeducated for the jobs they are in. In general, social liberals make less than Conservatives and pay less in taxes. The typical Republican man is paid about 49 percent more than the medium Democatic man, and the medium Republican women paid about 22 percent more than her Democratic counterpart. Gender-Neutral basis, the difference was about 36 percent. As the President Ronald Reagan said, "Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15th."

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Liberals love America and Americans.
Only time will tell.










Edited by Hello again, Jul 7 2009, 09:50 PM.
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I'm sorry RT that you cannot see the truths in bigtoe's post. That was an excellent assessment of liberal thought and liberal philosophy. Because of your hatred of liberals ,you have to refute it, I understand that....to acknowledge the truths in his post would be to admit you might be wrong about liberals, and you surely can't accept that.

You asked for a definition of liberals, but when you got one you dismissed it. So why did you ask if you had no intention of listening?
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