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| Gringa | Mar 31 2009, 05:14 PM Post #21 |
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Naw, you will not get rid of drugs until humans no longer want to change their brain chemistry by any substance they can get their hands on...... |
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| LadyJazzer | Mar 31 2009, 05:16 PM Post #22 |
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Here we go again... Here is the post from back in August about all this hysterical crap put out by the gun lobby, and what I found when I researched the actual "facts": Here are the so-called "facts" as presented:
----------------------------- LadyJazzer Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:45 pm
GOOD.
I'm non-commital, but basically I think going after manufacturers instead of perpetrators is a stupid idea.
"Sen. Obama didn't fill out these state Senate questionnaires--a staffer did--and there are several answers that didn't reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn't reflect his views." -- What part of that didn't you understand?
The bill was about "ARMOR-PIERCING" ammunition... Ban it? You bet... GOOD.
I can live with that...
"Sen. Obama didn't fill out these state Senate questionnaires--a staffer did--and there are several answers that didn't reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn't reflect his views." -- What part of that didn't you understand?
I agree that local gun bans shouldn't supercede the 2nd Amendment. The Supreme Court upheld it. So? A lot of people opposed it.
"Local gun bans" already dealt with in previous so-called "fact". Use of firearms in self-defense is a states-rights issue, and varies from state to state--as it should. Not a federal issue.
GOOD!! Licensing and registration is a good thing and doesn't prevent anyone from owning one, unless they fall into one of the outlawed categories: convicted felon, child-molester, wife-beater, etc.
Perhaps that was because he thought local municipalities should have the right to ban them... (Already discussed in the previous so-called "fact"...
Also a states-rights issue, and varies from state-to-state. Not a federal issue.
And what is the source that the Joyce Foundation "is the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and research"? The fact that he is on their Board of Directors doesn't doesn't say a thing about that being their function... By the way, did you actually look at Page 7 of the report? (It's not sourced with a link but here it is:) http://www.joycefdn.org/pdf/98_AnnualReport.pdf Look at Page-7... THERE IS NOTHING about guns, Obama, Board of Directors or any other such garbage. It talks about wanting Milwaukee's children to get a good education, and how reading proficiency drops to 27 percent by the 8th grade. If you're going to quote something as a "proof" of someone's anti-gun stance you might want to see if it actually talks about that or something else... :rof laughing: :rof laughing: :rof laughing:
Not a bad proposal... Five miles might be a bit excessive, but keeping gun shops away from schools & parks is not a bad idea.
Would that be anything like the warrantless spying, eavesdropping, privacy-rights violations, and internet tracking of US citizens that the Bushies have instituted in the last 8 years? Tell you what--You get McCain to commit to removing all of the 4th-Amendment violations that Bush put in place, and I'll give you this one...
B.F.D.
So, the source on this is a transcript of a conservative radio talk-show nutjob? Ooooookay....
Same category as registration... I don't have any heartburn with it. But then, as you guys are so fond of saying, "Well, if you don't have anything to hide, then what's the problem?"
GOOD!!! So do most Americans, I believe.
So....?
GOOD. A reasonable restriction.
Actually, the quote is: "He's also banning the sale of 'junk" handguns like the popular Saturday Night Specials." GOOD.
I don't necessarily agree with this, but I also don't see it as any big deal--unless, of course, you're trying to scare the gun-rights folks.
Twenty-one seems a bit harsh. In rural areas and some communities, kids start at 13-14 or earlier. I would think that someone younger than 18 could be required to take a safety program; and 18 & above would be reasonable for ownership. By the way, a bunch of these so-called (read: hysterical) "facts" are based on the article from the Chicago Defender (9), but in looking at the article, it doesn't cite anything as proof of any of this. That would be like me writing an article about something with no proof, and then citing the article over and over again as "proof" of something... [EDITED TO ADD: I decided to go back and read this article a little more...It's even more irrelevent than I thought. First, it's from an article written 9 years ago; Second, here is the setup:
Hmmmmm... "Increase penalties on gun-runners who are flooding Chicago's streets with illegal weapons"....And what part of that is a bad thing? Backing a resolution to be introduced "into the City Council"?!?!?! Oh no!! HORROR! HORROR! Dec, 1999?!?!? Calling for a "'shot-free' millennium celebration" (of the 2000 New Year)?---Yeah, that's really anti-gun subversive... Oh no!! HORROR! HORROR! :rof laughing: :rof laughing: :rof laughing: :rof laughing: :rof laughing: And since you didn't bother to quote the source of this whole hit-piece, it's from "http://www.exposeobama.com/". You might want to find something a little more believable to begin with. (Jeez, you guys REALLY need a new source of hit-material...) As I love to say, that dog won't hunt.... Nice try though... |
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| Mtnman | Mar 31 2009, 05:28 PM Post #23 |
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Gringa, the peeps who sell the drugs are the ones getting the Brain dead druggies hooked in the first place. |
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| archer | Mar 31 2009, 06:04 PM Post #24 |
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You can't sell what people don't want.... |
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| Mtnman | Mar 31 2009, 06:21 PM Post #25 |
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When I grew up there were guys giving out samples of drugs mary jane etc. the kids that got them either bought later and became hooked or didn't, if they hadn't been given them then they may have never been hooked. WE know my wifes sister is still a druggie today after all these years. Now she brags about being on Legal Drugs... Me was a jock Liked Beer. Now Beer,, and some good scotch, tequila, and Vodka. |
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| SSB | Mar 31 2009, 07:39 PM Post #26 |
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LJ....go play your guitar.....you KNOW that. |
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| Main Man | Mar 31 2009, 09:16 PM Post #27 |
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You will not get rid of drug dealers till you get rid of drug users. |
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| Mtnman | Mar 31 2009, 09:23 PM Post #28 |
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so that is why we need the ammo.... I think some here have done a few to many trips... |
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| LadyJazzer | Mar 31 2009, 09:41 PM Post #29 |
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Oh, now there's an intelligent response... Just attack the poster rather than deal with the facts... Tiresome...but predictable... |
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| Mtnman | Mar 31 2009, 10:03 PM Post #30 |
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I heard that they are gonna ban guitar strings. And retired peeps will pay 500% tax on their 250.00 One time check. |
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